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re: Why do libs harp on instititutional racism?
Posted on 8/14/19 at 2:27 pm to Big Scrub TX
Posted on 8/14/19 at 2:27 pm to Big Scrub TX
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doing serious remediation of lead in the soil.
Not to derail the thread and no response needed, but if you know of a place with high lead levels in soil please report it to the EPA and/or state Environmental Protection Agency. The EPA CERCLA program has money for the investigation of potential hazardous waste sites and takes it very seriously. There are special considerations given to pollution that occurs in minority communities now as well.
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Posted on 8/14/19 at 2:29 pm to upgrayedd
At any rate, the current state of affairs in the black community—specifically as it is seen as not as favorable as that of other groups—must be the result of institutional racism and/or a character flaw possessed by blacks.
I doubt you’re an overtly racist person, so I doubt you’ll conclude that the current state of black American affairs is the result of a character flaw possessed by the race. Therefore, we both know that institutional racism is afoot—and the facts do nothing but back this up.
You and several others are reluctant to accept/admit this. I suspect that this is because it contradicts a narrative or set of narratives with which you have grown comfortable.
I doubt you’re an overtly racist person, so I doubt you’ll conclude that the current state of black American affairs is the result of a character flaw possessed by the race. Therefore, we both know that institutional racism is afoot—and the facts do nothing but back this up.
You and several others are reluctant to accept/admit this. I suspect that this is because it contradicts a narrative or set of narratives with which you have grown comfortable.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 2:30 pm to BoyHowdy
I love it when in a place like Baltimore, Jackson, NOLA or Chicago where Democrats have been in power for years they make the claim of institutional racism. 
Posted on 8/14/19 at 2:31 pm to upgrayedd
Don't you just love someone who tries to project his feelings onto others? Excuse after excuse. I guess he will always need someone to blame for all his shortcomings in life.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 2:33 pm to Flats
Here's how institutional racism can be present today as a result of policies from generations ago:
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Meet Ryan and Jamal. They are both 8 years old. Their lives and the lives of their families are powerfully shaped by the communities in which they live (Sampson, 2011) and the institutions with which they interact. Institutional racism has influenced the
lives of both boys, giving Ryan a host of opportunities and privileges while creating significant disadvantages for Jamal.
Housing & Wealth-building.
Although both Jamal and Ryan’s parents earn similar incomes and manage their finances well, because of public and private housing-discrimination practices (ex. redlining, real estate steering, restrictive covenants),
Jamal’s family lives in a high poverty neighborhood, like many African Americans. Jamal’s family was one of the numerous middle class minority families targeted for a predatory, high-interest loan during the mortgage crisis. As a result, they lost their family home which wiped out decades of financial growth, setting them back almost an entire generation (Burd-Sharps, & Rasch, 2015). They currently rent an apartment that they share with Jamal’s grandmother.
Ryan’s family was also hit during the mortgage crisis but they were able to rely on financial support from Ryan’s grandfather to soften the blow. Ryan’s grandfather took advantage of the GI Bill, which paid for his education and gave him a government guaranteed housing loan to buy a home in a fastgrowing suburb. As a result, Ryan’s grandparents were able to save money and used the
equity in their home to give Ryan’s family a down payment for a new home. This reflects the national pattern: 72% of White families own homes compared to 42% of Black families (US Census, 2018). For 2016, the median wealth for black families was $17,600 and for white
families was $171,000 (Federal Reserve Board, 2017).
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Posted on 8/14/19 at 2:35 pm to xiv
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I bet the government could do something that would inevitably result in more fat people, amirite?
No, they can't.
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Just like the government can do something that will inevitably result in blacks being poorer than whites.
No, they can't. They do the opposite. It's called wealth transfer.
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virtue signaling about individual behavior and choices has its place, but that has nothing to do with institutional racism.
Yes, it does. IR is an excuse for individual behavior.
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blacks aren’t doing as well as other groups. That must be the result of at least one of the following: A) institutional racism B) a character flaw possessed by blacks
It's B+. The character flaw is cultural. Stuff like stealing is OK, getting caught is bad. Marriage is for white people.
But it's also genetic. 15 points of IQ.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 2:37 pm to xiv
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At any rate, the current state of affairs in the black community—specifically as it is seen as not as favorable as that of other groups—must be the result of institutional racism and/or a character flaw possessed by blacks.
I doubt you’re an overtly racist person, so I doubt you’ll conclude that the current state of black American affairs is the result of a character flaw possessed by the race. Therefore, we both know that institutional racism is afoot—and the facts do nothing but back this up.
This makes absolutely ZERO sense. You'll have to explain this further.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 2:39 pm to upgrayedd
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This makes absolutely ZERO sense. You'll have to explain this further.
I can't wait to hear this
Posted on 8/14/19 at 2:46 pm to DemonKA3268
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I can't wait to hear this
That nonsense is straight out of some SJW social science curriculum. There's no logical pathway in those statements.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 2:48 pm to xiv
Factors like teen pregnancy, having kids outside of a committed, long term relationship, not finishing high school, addiction, single parent home, or not having good authority figures throughout childhood will tend to cause someone to have an "unsuccessful life" more often than not no matter what color you are, no matter whether you live in Bumblefrick, Alabama or the worst ghetto in Chicago.
However most white people in this situation havent been raised being told that "racism" is holding them down so they dont have that excuse and they'll blame their dad or some other general thing for their own shortcomings whereas blacks tend to go more for the racism angle because thats what theyve always been told from what I've seen.
There were terrible times in America's history but most of that has little bearing on 2019.
I had no generational wealth and I'm doing okay.
Just my opinion.
However most white people in this situation havent been raised being told that "racism" is holding them down so they dont have that excuse and they'll blame their dad or some other general thing for their own shortcomings whereas blacks tend to go more for the racism angle because thats what theyve always been told from what I've seen.
There were terrible times in America's history but most of that has little bearing on 2019.
I had no generational wealth and I'm doing okay.
Just my opinion.
This post was edited on 8/14/19 at 2:50 pm
Posted on 8/14/19 at 2:52 pm to Zach
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I bet the government could do something that would inevitably result in more fat people, amirite?
No, they can't.
quote:See previous .gif.
No, they can't. They do the opposite. It's called wealth transfer.
quote:It can be, and any individual blaming IR for his individual shortcomings is most likely a person I don't respect, but that isn't what we're talking about. IR inevitably resulted in unfavorable trends over a population. The same thing would have happened to whites if the historical roles had been reversed.
Yes, it does. IR is an excuse for individual behavior.
quote:This is an example of overt racism.
It's B+. The character flaw is cultural. Stuff like stealing is OK, getting caught is bad. Marriage is for white people.
But it's also genetic. 15 points of IQ.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 2:53 pm to tigerinDC09
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Here's how institutional racism can be present today as a result of policies from generations ago:
I understand all of that, but populations aren't Ryan and Jamal. In the real world there are Braydens who grew up like Jamal and Tyrones that grew up like Ryan. So any broad-based race solution you try to implement is going to end up helping someone who doesn't need help and screwing somebody over that does. I've personally seen that happen.
No two people on this planet grow up the same advantages and truly equal opportunity and they never will. Two white boys who grow up next to each other don't have the same advantages and equal opportunity, let alone two kids who grwo up in different states. It's a fool's errand to attempt to make it so.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 2:53 pm to upgrayedd
quote:The best example I can come up with of present day institutional racism is the war on drugs. It is very clearly prosecuted disproportionately along color lines. The easiest example to give is to ask when was the last time an elite university was raided by SWAT in a drug sweep that would be virtually GUARANTEED to round up scores - if not hundreds - of offenders. This would be like shooting fish in a barrel. It doesn't happen. And that's a political decision.
but the theory of "institutional racism" in 2019 is nothing more than a coverup
Posted on 8/14/19 at 2:55 pm to upgrayedd
quote:Either they got screwed, they aren't as good as us, or a combination of both.
This makes absolutely ZERO sense. You'll have to explain this further.
Which is it?
A) Screwed (ie, institutional racism)
B) They suck
C) a combination of A&B
You and I both know that the answer is A. You are reluctant to admit this because you feel it threatens a narrative you prefer. I posit to you that the admission of the historical role of institutional racism does nothing to threaten conservative political theory.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 2:58 pm to upgrayedd
He's still projecting. Think he will ever figure that out?
Posted on 8/14/19 at 2:59 pm to Zach
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The character flaw is cultural.
Correct, and there are plenty of black people who shun that culture, and plenty of whites who wallow in it. Amazingly enough those black people do fine and those white people end up in meth trailers or jail.
The most successful immigrant group in the US right now is Nigerians. Last I checked they had black skin.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 3:00 pm to xiv
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Which is it?
A) Screwed (ie, institutional racism)
B) They suck
C) a combination of A&B
The fact that you believe these are the only possible explanations for why the AA community finds itself in its current state speaks volumes about your ability, or lack thereof, to find explanations for complex issues.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 3:02 pm to Flats
quote:The vast majority of Nigerian-Americans immigrated to the US beginning in the 1980's.
The most successful immigrant group in the US right now is Nigerians. Last I checked they had black skin.
How big a history buff are you?
Posted on 8/14/19 at 3:02 pm to Sponge
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Posted on 8/14/19 at 3:04 pm to Big Scrub TX
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The best example I can come up with of present day institutional racism is the war on drugs. It is very clearly prosecuted disproportionately along color lines.
I think there are a lot of factors that are excluded in those "disparity" stats that get thrown around. Those stats include prior records, pleading down to possession charges, additional charges along with those possession charges. There really aren't many judges and DA's locking up people of any color for the sole issue of having a dime bag.
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The easiest example to give is to ask when was the last time an elite university was raided by SWAT in a drug sweep that would be virtually GUARANTEED to round up scores - if not hundreds - of offenders. This would be like shooting fish in a barrel. It doesn't happen. And that's a political decision.
Cops typically don't conduct sweeping raids on users. They're looking for far bigger fish than some rich kid dropping acid in his dorm room. Cops aren't raiding campuses because there typically aren't big fish running distribution rings on them.
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