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re: Relying on a branch to government to decide if you have a right that threatens government
Posted on 8/5/19 at 1:01 pm to HonoraryCoonass
Posted on 8/5/19 at 1:01 pm to HonoraryCoonass
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But it’s settled law. Look up “Starry the sky is” in your law books. The precedent was set with Heller. Even the libs accept this. It can’t be challenged. Ever.
I hope this is sarcasm.
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Posted on 8/5/19 at 1:03 pm to Relax
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You don't have to believe polls to believe that... When was the last time a republican won the popular vote?
Well, that's one of the most ignorant extrapolations I've seen in a while. I have two uncles who vote democrat, because their father voted democrat. But if you come for either of their guns, you're going to get the lead first.
Posted on 8/5/19 at 1:08 pm to troyt37
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But if you come for either of their guns, you're going to get the lead first
Speaking of absolute ignorance... Who is proposing anyone take their guns?
My point was in response to him not believing the majority of Americans would support common sense gun control laws when in fact they do. Please pay attention and try harder next time.
Posted on 8/5/19 at 1:09 pm to Relax
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common sense gun control laws
Posted on 8/5/19 at 1:15 pm to Relax
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Who is proposing anyone take their guns?
California Democratic Sen. Kamala Harris gave details about her gun control proposals in the wake of the deadly El Paso, Texas shooting after she addressed union members at the AFSCME forum at the University of Nevada, Las Vegas on Saturday.
When asked by the Washington Examiner if her plan would include legal gun owner databases or gun confiscation via law enforcement visits to residents who own banned firearms, she replied, “I’m actually prepared to take executive action to put in place rules that improve this situation.”
She continued, “I also have as part of my background and experience working on this issue, when I was attorney general [of California], and we put resources into allowing law enforcement to actually knock on the doors of people who were on two lists — a list where they had been found by a court to be a danger to themselves and others. LINK
Posted on 8/5/19 at 1:15 pm to Relax
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Just don't argue that stricter gun control laws won't save lives, because that's complete BS, just be honest and admit you could care less about the victims (until it's one your own loved ones). All you care about is the optics of not giving one inch on the 2nd amendment.
You wanting to call your fellow Americans a disease because they hold slightly different views than you seems like you are projecting your own insecurities onto them.
The fact is that the vast majority of Americans do support stricter gun control laws. You don't have to believe polls to believe that... When was the last time a republican won the popular vote? Maybe if you don't like that fact you can go back to the country you came from!
There isnt a law you or anyone could make today that would end shootings tomorrow. That's a fact. You aren't concerned with saving lives so spare me your bullshite. It's been proven over and over.
Liberals are no longer American. They are anti American. They want open borders, free Healthcare and education, abortion, ending the 2nd amendment, guilting whites with every problem, and one bathroom so that every gender they make up, can use. They are a disease. frick them.
Well when you have a disease it spreads. That's why Republicans didn't win the popular vote. I was born here. I'm not going anywhere.
Posted on 8/5/19 at 1:16 pm to Relax
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My point was in response to him not believing the majority of Americans would support common sense gun control laws when in fact they do. Please pay attention and try harder next time.
And my point is, I know loads of democrats and have generational democrats in my immediate family, and almost none of them support any kind of further gun legislation, and most that live in Cali, rail against the gun laws there, as they continue to vote for the people trying with all their might to pass even more.
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Please pay attention and try harder next time.
The title of this thread is "Relying on a branch (of) government to decide if you have a right that threatens government"
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Who is proposing anyone take their guns?
If a branch of government decides you don't have the right to keep and bear arms, taking them is pretty much what we are discussing, is it not?
This is me trying harder. You like?
Posted on 8/5/19 at 1:16 pm to Relax
quote:I wish they would ban killing people. I mean if we banned murder i think people would stop murdering people.
Speaking of absolute ignorance... Who is proposing anyone take their guns?
My point was in response to him not believing the majority of Americans would support common sense gun control laws when in fact they do. Please pay attention and try harder next time.
Posted on 8/5/19 at 1:22 pm to Relax
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Speaking of absolute ignorance... Who is proposing anyone take their guns?
Turn on your TV during the next Dem debate and you'll see a whole stage full of them.
Posted on 8/5/19 at 1:24 pm to Ace Midnight
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What do you think would do it?
Banning all guns would do it. Look at the UK, they banned all guns except a few grandfathered old relics and single shots. Mass shootings are unheard of there since the ban. Not a single one to my knowledge.
Of course there have been truck attacks and some bombings by Muslims, but those are harder to pull off. It's just so easy for any loon here to get a military styled rifle with large mags and go out shooting. If he didn't have immediate access to the gun, he wouldn't act. Or if he did act, it would be much harder to pull off those kinds of fatality numbers with other methods. Making bombs isn't the easiest thing to do.
I agree you'll never totally stop dedicated loons (you can kill a few people with a knife) but it's much harder.
Assault rifles are going to get banned. It's going to happen 100% without a doubt. The question is what to do with the millions already out there. One solution is to set a date for turn-in and anyone caught with one after that date is commiting a felony. That would be easier and safer than going door to door.
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Posted on 8/5/19 at 1:29 pm to AUstar
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Banning all guns would do it.
No, it wouldn't.
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Look at the UK,
No safer than the U.S. and they're having to talk about banning knives.
Safety is the anathema to liberty, to be honest. Reasonable risk reduction is about all one can hope for.
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Assault rifles are going to get banned.
If you mean semi-automatic weapons, that really can't happen (and shouldn't). If you mean ugly guns? Maybe, but the loopholes required to pass it will be as meaningless as the 1994 one.
Rifles, by and large, don't generate homicides in this nation. On the rare occasions it does, it is international news.
Why? Emotions and the gun control agenda. "Just give up this class or those guns." And it never stops. The end goal is banning all guns and confiscation.
And, frankly, I just can't contemplate that being a success here for at least another generation. I could be wrong.
Posted on 8/5/19 at 1:32 pm to AUstar
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Assault rifles are going to get banned. It's going to happen 100% without a doubt. The question is what to do with the millions already out there. One solution is to set a date for turn-in and anyone caught with one after that date is commiting a felony. That would be easier and safer than going door to door.
How's that working out in NY and New Jersey?
"How many of New Jersey's 1 million or so gun owners have complied with the ban by turning LCMs in to law enforcement agencies? Approximately zero, judging from an investigation by Ammoland writer John Crump. Crump, an NRA instructor and gun rights activist, "reached out to several local police departments in New Jersey" and found that "none had a single report of magazines turned over." He also contacted the New Jersey State Police, which has not officially responded to his inquiry. But "two sources from within the State Police," speaking on condition of anonymity, said "they both do not know of any magazines turned over to their agency and doubted that any were turned in."
Posted on 8/5/19 at 1:32 pm to Ace Midnight
Posted on 8/5/19 at 1:34 pm to AUstar
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Banning all guns would do it.
You're joking, right?
If banning all guns would do it, why doesn't banning all murder do it?
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Mass shootings are unheard of there since the ban. Not a single one to my knowledge.
Didn't help much with the mass stabbings, or mass trucks running people over, and won't do a thing about the mass acid attacks, or mass bombings either, will it?
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One solution is to set a date for turn-in and anyone caught with one after that date is commiting a felony. That would be easier and safer than going door to door.
Some solution. Make millions of citizens, criminals. Like many others have said, if you make me a criminal, a criminal is what I will be. Sow the wind, reap the whirlwind.
Posted on 8/5/19 at 1:42 pm to AUstar
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Mass shootings are unheard of there since the ban. Not a single one to my knowledge
Go look at the mass killing stats before and after the ban. Nothing changed
Posted on 8/5/19 at 1:50 pm to Big Scrub TX
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I don't think that's right.
Why didn't we look at comparable rates of assaults, rapes, robbery or overall murder rate?
Oh, wait...
Posted on 8/5/19 at 2:18 pm to saintsfan1977
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Go look at the mass killing stats before and after the ban. Nothing changed
Wrong. Perhaps you should go look at the stats. Yes the ban had loop holes so yes it could have been better, but to state that it had no affect is false.
Posted on 8/5/19 at 2:38 pm to Ace Midnight
quote:Is that different than the 3 or 4 murder metrics supplied in the link?
overall murder rate
Posted on 8/5/19 at 2:57 pm to Big Scrub TX
Yes. Obviously.
Posted on 8/5/19 at 2:57 pm to Relax
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Perhaps you should go look at the stats. Yes the ban had loop holes so yes it could have been better, but to state that it had no affect is false.
It had no effect on crime. Because crimes, statistically, are not committed with rifles.
When they are, they are so rare and special they are INTERNATIONAL NEWS. That's my proof.
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