re: Shooting at California festival

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I agree 100%. Which is why I prefer to default to allowing those who wish to exercise their rights to do so and therefore remove gun free zones.

I'll caveat and say this is for public areas. I'm perfectly ok with a private venue or business mandating no guns allowed on their property. I may disagree with it, but that is well within their rights as property owners.

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First, for a little context, I am pro 2A, I was a competitive shooter and went to undergrad on a scholarship to shoot 3 position small bore.

I don't think mass shootings are preventable, you may shift the target but they will find a soft target. Just like if you banned all guns (and actually made and kept the entire US gun-free) there are other options for mass killings. I don't think banning no gun zones will reduce deaths, only possibly shift them to other targets.

In the end, I don't care if people carry, I have had a carry permit for over 30 years. That said I outside of transporting them to the range I never leave my property with a gun, simply because I am not afraid. That isn't a macho statement it is just statistically it is well below my risk/benefit analysis. I do so many more things that are statitically likely to cause my death than getting shot it just isn't on my radar.

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Oh the irony. All gun owners are slack jawed redneck hillbillies that are just going to open fire all over the place in a situation like that. Fictional narrative indeed.

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And now creating fictional posts to boot. Fitting. I am a gun owner. I have never said all gun owners are hill billies or irresponsible. I did say that irresponsible gun owners exist and that I have witnessed them firsthand. I also said that I know tacticool guys who would respond and not retreat.

You can pretend that every gun owner is responsible and would react calmly in a mass shooting scenario, but that simply is not true.

Again, there is a reason that these type of events are gun free and why you can’t carry a loaded weapon into a gun show: insurance actuaries have determined that the risk of negligent gun owners is greater than the risk of mass shooters.

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I was a competitive shooter and went to undergrad on a scholarship to shoot 3 position small bore.

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Smallbore and pellet myself. All of HS and club in college (no actual school team).

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I don't think banning no gun zones will reduce deaths, only possibly shift them to other targets.

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Again I'll agree. I default to the idea that you don't enact legislation when the legislation does nothing and in fact intrudes on the constitutional rights of an individual.

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That said I outside of transporting them to the range I never leave my property with a gun, simply because I am not afraid. That isn't a macho statement it is just statistically it is well below my risk/benefit analysis.

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And I can respect that. However not everyone has that luxury, so I prefer that people that live in a higher risk environment have the ability to defend themselves if necessary.

Personally I've had a CC permit since I left active duty, and I also rarely carry because like you I thankfully can live in a location where it's generally not necessary. However, there are certain places here in the city that I certainly carry because of the increased risk. I also make sure I carry when traveling when reasonable. I'm more concerned about what I'm not prepared for than what I am.

Flamethrowers are the answer. Unregulated in 48 states and harder for the Average Joe to miss the active shooter target with a stream of fire.

mashable: flamethrowers 2018

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Well right now the issue being discussed is mass shooters. Perhaps we can discuss preventing mass bombings or truck attacks when those start happening on a regular basis.

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Understand the reason I mention it outside of it being directly germane to mass casualty events, is that is a common narrative about why gun control doesn't work. It is not in my nature to leave an obvious argument untended.

My big-picture view divorcing myself of any agenda is I like gun-free zones in some situations, one of which is when alcohol is being served. I've walked around Carbrini-Green after dark on a bet but I wouldn't go into a football game that served alcohol and allowed concealed carry. Without at least no service and a no alcohol policy there will be people getting shot at least when concealed carry reaches some critical mass.

Glad the police shot and killed the white supremacist.

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“Read Might Is Right by Ragnar Redbeard,” the account wrote next to a photo of a Smokey the Bear sign warning, “Fire danger high tonight.”

He was referring to a much-hated 1890 book embraced by white supremacists that was banned for years after being condemned as sexist, racist and anti-Semitic.

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Glad the police shot and killed the white supremacist.

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His Italian side hated his Iranian side.

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Weapons were prohibited at the festival. What could possibly go wrong?

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yeah because we have so many shootings at LSU sporting events.

Just found out the 6 year old that got killed was the child of a member of the local I'm working in. Couple guys on the job know him, apparently. Can not imagine the horror he's going through.