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re: Marvel is screwing the pooch by pandering

Posted on 7/23/19 at 6:00 am to
Posted by BloodSweat&Beers
One Particular Harbor, Fl
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 7/23/19 at 6:00 am to
ISWYDT

Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 7/23/19 at 6:31 am to
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Natalie Portman as Thor or idiots showing how "open minded" they are by denying the stupidity of Natalie Portman as Thor
I thought Guardians of the Galaxy was going to be stupid because it had a talking raccoon and tree. I'm willing to wait and see how they plan to work Portman back into this.
Posted by Loungefly85
Lafayette
Member since Jul 2016
7930 posts
Posted on 7/23/19 at 6:48 am to
I’m excited for Blade. Not so much for the #girlpower ones.

CM was a fine movie, but the created “controversy” about it was tiring.
Posted by Trauma14
Member since Aug 2010
5999 posts
Posted on 7/23/19 at 7:01 am to
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Halle Berry in her prime would have easily done a billion dollars today.


$82 million earned on $100 million dollar budget!



Posted by 0
Member since Aug 2011
16785 posts
Posted on 7/23/19 at 7:19 am to
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Marvel is screwing the pooch by pandering


Pandering would be to include a gay sex scene in a captain america movie or suddenly making Iron Man black. Using a preexisting marvel character that just happens to not be a white dude isn't pandering.

These movies are expected to make a billion dollars now. You don't get there by just catering to nerds.
Posted by 0
Member since Aug 2011
16785 posts
Posted on 7/23/19 at 7:24 am to
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denying the stupidity of Natalie Portman as Thor


So it's perfectly reasonable to you that a dude is able to pick up hammer no one else can and harness the power of lightning by wielding an axe created by a giant using a dying star, but unreasonable for a chick to do it.

Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
98939 posts
Posted on 7/23/19 at 7:25 am to
Speaking of...



Riri Williams, tech wunderkind who once replaced Tony Stark.


People can accept FalconCap because Falcon was an established badass before that. Throwing a teenager with an Afro into the Iron Man suit is just plain silly.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
81611 posts
Posted on 7/23/19 at 7:44 am to
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when Valkyrie and Sif exist?


Until Blindspot ends, Marvel won't be able to use Jaime Alexander for a while. That's why Sif wasn't in Ragnarok (and why she's officially dead per the Russos)
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
57725 posts
Posted on 7/23/19 at 7:47 am to
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Several other characters have gone by Captain America in the comics.

Yeah, I knew someone would post something like that. I don't care what later comics did.

But it does seem like a convenient device for constantly feeding you recycled turds. Have fun spending your money on that.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
31575 posts
Posted on 7/23/19 at 7:55 am to
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Do I think this is necessarily their smartest move? No, as their readership dropped when they did a number of these dumber recastings of iconic characters. But there is at least a thought process behind it.


So, the OP is correct. If the viewership of the movies drops as much as the readership did when they SJWed the comics, it would wreck a studio.
There may be a thought process behind it; but it's a stupid thought process.
Posted by 0
Member since Aug 2011
16785 posts
Posted on 7/23/19 at 8:00 am to
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I don't care what later comics did.


Some of these reincarnations happened in the 70s. There have been a shite ton of different Caps.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
57725 posts
Posted on 7/23/19 at 8:07 am to
Like I said, their only choices are to replace the actors who played IM, CA and Thor or cut those stories altogether. They can't cut the stories, and people wouldn't accept the characters played by replacement lookalikes.

So they go woke. It's marketing, but still funny to see the sheep line up to prove how woke they are by shelling out their money.
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
33082 posts
Posted on 7/23/19 at 8:33 am to
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Captain America is one guy, not a "mantle" that others pick up and continue.




Except that it is in the comics.


Many people have taken on the role of Captain America.

Steve Rogers is one man.
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
18315 posts
Posted on 7/23/19 at 8:39 am to
This thread is going a lot like my GoT thread and in the end I was right. I’ll be right about this too.

Posted by Green Chili Tiger
Lurking the Tin Foil Hat Board
Member since Jul 2009
48739 posts
Posted on 7/23/19 at 8:51 am to
This post was edited on 7/23/19 at 8:54 am
Posted by Jay Are
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2014
5081 posts
Posted on 7/23/19 at 8:54 am to
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So they go woke. It's marketing, but still funny to see the sheep line up to prove how woke they are by shelling out their money.


There is nothing woke about their marketing. And the sheep you're referring to are mostly children. As in literal children. We're talking about movies marketed to teenagers.
Posted by JasonMason
Memphis
Member since Jun 2009
4701 posts
Posted on 7/23/19 at 8:58 am to
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We're talking about movies marketed to teenagers.


If you think the MCU is marketed particularly at teenagers, you're sorely mistaken. Teenagers don't have billions of dollars.
This post was edited on 7/23/19 at 8:59 am
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
33082 posts
Posted on 7/23/19 at 8:59 am to
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If you think the MCU is marketed particularly at teenagers, you're sorely mistaken. Teenagers don't have billions of dollars.




But their parents do.
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
Lurking the Tin Foil Hat Board
Member since Jul 2009
48739 posts
Posted on 7/23/19 at 9:00 am to
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Try Black pantherette


Boy do I have bad news for you.


Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
33082 posts
Posted on 7/23/19 at 9:03 am to
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Boy do I have bad news for you.





And before they start with their "it's not some interchangeable mantle" argument again:

Black Panther is a mantle. Like Captain America and Thor.
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