What took more nads, first mariners to cross the oceans or the first manned moon landing

Moon
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I hear ya, that's my thoughts too but there's gonna be some people who'll go with the ancient mariners, they'll tell us that the Apollo astronauts had people holding their hands through the whole trip.

Best answer.

Both require big brass ones, but space demands more fuzzy ones.

Mariners and it’s not close. They went out with absolutely zero support. Once they crossed the horizon they were on their own and had no idea what they would find or encounter.

The astronauts had every PhD on the planet at their disposal the second things went wrong. They knew where they were going and what awaited them.

The first guys who crossed the ocean had no idea what conditions they were sailing into, no idea what they’d find, no communications with home, food and water limitations, and if they failed chances are nobody would ever know what happened to them.

Crossing the ocean...and it ain't close. There have been 8 times as many people who have traveled to space and back in the history of man kind than there have been solo, non-stop circumnavigations of the globe. Sailing is FAR more dangerous than going to the moon and back....because going to the moon is much more difficult it requires much more caution and management of risk....Hell most of the men sailing with Columbus had no idea where they were going or when or if they would ever return...anyone who has ever gone to the moon was well trained and knew exactly what they were doing and why....

The death rate, all time, of space travel is about 3.7%. The death rate of transatlantic sailing TODAY is nearly 1.5%. Take away coast guards, navigational aids....life jackets????? The nads required to step on a wooden sailing ship and strike out for the horizon...especially for the average able seaman who couldn't navigate, couldn't swim and knew little to nothing about where he was going or when he would get there and back is amazing....

The mariners could have drowned, but they could’ve drowned on any voyage. They could catch fish to eat. They could find food upon landing anywhere they sailed. They had air to breathe and could catch rain water to drink or boil seawater to condense the steam for fresh water. They did not have to worry about lack of atmosphere.
They did have the limitations of their time, particularly their small sailing vessels. They did have the weather that could sink them too.
The trip to the moon was much more dangerous. From taking a trillion pounds of spacecraft and pushing it behind four million horsepower liquid oxygen/hydrogen flamethrower engines to no atmosphere, it goes on and on.
Going to the moon is the hardest thing man has ever done and the only thing harder would be to defeat Marxism and leftest ideology worldwide.

I dont know. Obviously, the moon missions were an incredible technical achievement, the training and physical demands..unreal. But in the end, the death, if it were to come, would be short.

On a wind powered vessel with no gps, I mean those guys were at sea for two months. Scurvy, stinking rotting vomit and worse, starvation, battling storms, mutiny. That's freakin hardcore. Those first Mariners were no slouch, and i would their task was physically and mentally more demanding.

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Lewis and Clark

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I read a book about them 20 years ago and still can't get this one paragraph out of my head. They slept on the ground every night. When they reached this one place in the Midwest it was cold but they awoke feeling as if there was a warm blanket over them (that they didn't have). When they looked they saw that the blanket covering them was actually a few thousand fleas.