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re: Speaking of California, this is accurate, correct?
Posted on 7/12/19 at 12:13 am to jennBN
Posted on 7/12/19 at 12:13 am to jennBN
About one out of every eight US citizens live in California. That tells me enough right there. California is probably the most desired place to live in the world. Haters gonna hate, no matter what.
Posted on 7/12/19 at 12:15 am to coonasswhodat
Mountains, oceans, deserts, forests. Great pay and tons of opportunities. This state truly has it all.
Posted on 7/12/19 at 12:15 am to jennBN
quote:
nia and while the cost of living is quite high, living rent free in your heads makes up for it.
Seriously, there is at least one post a day about California. That shite cracks me up.
Well played.
Posted on 7/12/19 at 12:17 am to jennBN
Many years ago, I worked for pot farming operations in Willits and Arcata. If Northern California above the Bay became its own state (like the proposed Jefferson with southern Oregon in tow), I'd give great consideration to moving there. Everything else besides the inland isn't really my dig. Too many damn people and too much damn development.
This post was edited on 7/12/19 at 12:19 am
Posted on 7/12/19 at 12:25 am to coonasswhodat
quote:
About one out of every eight US citizens live in California. That tells me enough right there.
1 out of every 4 homeless persons in the US live in California. That tells me enough, too.
Posted on 7/12/19 at 12:49 am to coonasswhodat
quote:
About one out of every eight US citizens live in California. That tells me enough right there. California is probably the most desired place to live in the world. Haters gonna hate, no matter what.
That’s also a bit deceptive. California has also had the highest net out-migration - by far - within the U.S. over this century. Far higher than even Illinois, New York, Michigan, and the like.
I’m California a lot for work, used to live on the West Coast, and have been up and down and everywhere in between in the state. It’s spectacular in some ways and absolutely horrid in others. That demographer who pegged it as a great place for the very rich, very poor, and government workers (and everyone else can get F’d) had it dead on.
This post was edited on 7/12/19 at 12:53 am
Posted on 7/12/19 at 12:57 am to TigerMikeAtl
quote:I love Wikipedia. I didn't use it for my dissertation or anything, but it's a great resource, and it provides links and citations to research, manuscripts, data, etc. So what's your problem with it?
Buckeye_Vol....if you get all your information from Wikipedia you are in trouble, my friend!
Regardless, maybe you didn't see the links, but just to appease you, I actually downloaded the most recent data from the Census.
Here is the specific data for California:
US Census Quick Facts: California
Although that appears to be 2018, and I also looked at the poverty data that is up to 2017, and it was 33rd at 15.1% compared to 13.3% in the 2018 data. It mentions something about a different methodology that can't be compared to other regions in the 2018 data, but I don't know if that refers to other states or other types or regions.
Either way, it's not anywhere close to last in poverty. Here is the 2017 data with all states:
POVERTY STATUS IN THE PAST 12 MONTHS: 2013-2017 American Community Survey 5-Year Estimates
Posted on 7/12/19 at 1:00 am to jennBN
You misunderstood the OP. The post isn’t about California. It’s about Democrats
Posted on 7/12/19 at 1:18 am to AbuTheMonkey
quote:This is for 2017 only, and I the spreadsheet was a pain, bu my calculations, California has the 3rd most TOTAL net migration out behind New York and Illinois; however, as a percentage of it's inward migration it's is 8th behind Illinois, New York, New Jersey, Hawaii, Louisiana, and Wyoming.
That’s also a bit deceptive. California has also had the highest net out-migration - by far - within the U.S. over this century. Far higher than even Illinois, New York, Michigan, and the like.
Posted on 7/12/19 at 2:11 am to GeorgeWest
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California is a net contributor to the national coffers
I would fricking hope so considering California was born on third and thinks they hit a home run.
Ports
Military
Farming
Energy
Tourism
Not a single one of those is a result of the citizens nor politicians of the state, they are a direct result of the natural geography and landscape. The only thing California has created on its own is the tech industry, and much of that has moved its corporate offices out of state to avoid the insane taxes.
I love CA as much as the next guy but let's be real, without the socialists in charge they would be the 3rd biggest economy in the world behind US and China and should have zero poverty, zero unemployment.
Posted on 7/12/19 at 5:48 am to L.A.
California use to be a great state to live in for the middle class. 60’s, 70’s, and 80’s it was a great place to live. Late 90’s early 2000’s is when I really saw the decline for middle class.
Weather great
Oceans
Mountains
Desert
Politicians are destroying this place for the middle class.
Weather great
Oceans
Mountains
Desert
Politicians are destroying this place for the middle class.
Posted on 7/12/19 at 5:50 am to jennBN
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California is pretty damn close to perfect. I am actually happy to pay taxes here. I should probably be more active in keeping it great. It’s easy to complacent.
I love California. Have family as far south as San Diego and as far North as Santa Rosa. The issue this board has is based on all the advantages California has just by what it offers geographically, it’s output is abysmal. You have to wake up everyday early, roll up your sleeves, and bust your balls to figure out a way to absolutely shite on productivity and common sense.
Posted on 7/12/19 at 5:58 am to coonasswhodat
quote:That alone is enough to rank it as my least desirable state.
About one out of every eight US citizens live in California. That tells me enough right there.
Posted on 7/12/19 at 7:20 am to GeorgeWest
quote:
The recent tax law changes have made significant numbers of Californians and New Yorkers and New Jerseyites pay higher taxes
Good. That's a start but it isn't enough. Stop hoarding your wealth. You didn't build that. Obviously California and New York are disparaging the southern states through their patriarchal white wealth gap. Please stop rubbing our faces in it and just give us more money. You see, if you give us all of your money then we can use it to pay for our programs and then we can pull our own weight using your money. Liberal utopia achieved.
This post was edited on 7/12/19 at 7:22 am
Posted on 7/12/19 at 7:23 am to buckeye_vol
Dig deeper. Take a look at the geographically adjusted column.
This post was edited on 7/12/19 at 7:23 am
Posted on 7/12/19 at 7:43 am to jennBN
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I live in California and while the cost of living is quite high, living rent free in your heads makes up for it.
Seriously, there is at least one post a day about California. That shite cracks me up.
And they almost all live in America's a-hole, Louisiana. A shite stain of a state that nobody gives a dann about.
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Exactly. I freaking love this board.
You either laugh at the abject stupidity or cry from the unhinged depravity.
This post was edited on 7/12/19 at 7:46 am
Posted on 7/12/19 at 7:48 am to buckeye_vol
Wow, using old Wikipedia data from 2016!?
California is in DNC/MSM Political Complex free fall.
2017 Politifact.com
Our ruling
State Assembly Republican Leader Chad Mayes said recently that California has "the highest poverty rate in the nation" when considering the U.S. Census Bureau’s Supplemental Poverty Measure.
Data from that report, and researchers who study poverty, support Mayes’ statement. The state’s 20.6 percent poverty rate is higher than any other, though Florida’s 19 percent rate is close, especially when considering the margin of error.
The supplemental report is considered by experts the best state-by-state measure of poverty, because it takes into account geographic differences in cost-of-living, not just income levels.
In his statement, Mayes cited the specific report that backs his claim, and added the context that another report, one that doesn’t account for cost-of-living, shows California’s poverty closer to the national average.
Given this clarity and context, we rate Mayes' statement True.
TRUE – The statement is accurate and there’s nothing significant missing.
Or how about something even newer, 2018.
The San Diego Union-Tribune
California ranks No. 1 in poverty once again. Take one guess why.
By ABBY HAMBLIN
SEP. 13, 2018 11:59 AM
California was given a first-place title this week that it surely doesn’t want.
It has the highest rate of poverty of any state in the country, according to new data from the U.S. Census Bureau.
As a whole, the U.S. saw its national poverty rate decrease slightly 0.4 percentage points. But the Golden State has its own unique poverty story to tell.
Here’s what you should know.
How does California stack up nationally?
The U.S. Census Bureau measures poverty in two ways every year.
Official poverty measure: The official measure compares all states the same based on income.
Supplemental poverty measure: This measure calculates poverty rates by taking into account the many government programs designed to assist low-income families and individuals that are not included in the official poverty measures. It is this measure that gives us a better idea of what’s going on in a state like California.
By the supplemental poverty measure, California’s estimated poverty rate is 19 percent. While it is a 1.4 percent decrease from the previous year, the rate remains the highest among states. It accounts for about 7.5 million Californians.
The next closest is Florida with 18.1 percent. Louisiana follows at 17.7 percent.
Thanks John Bel Edwards
California is in DNC/MSM Political Complex free fall.
2017 Politifact.com
Our ruling
State Assembly Republican Leader Chad Mayes said recently that California has "the highest poverty rate in the nation" when considering the U.S. Census Bureau’s Supplemental Poverty Measure.
Data from that report, and researchers who study poverty, support Mayes’ statement. The state’s 20.6 percent poverty rate is higher than any other, though Florida’s 19 percent rate is close, especially when considering the margin of error.
The supplemental report is considered by experts the best state-by-state measure of poverty, because it takes into account geographic differences in cost-of-living, not just income levels.
In his statement, Mayes cited the specific report that backs his claim, and added the context that another report, one that doesn’t account for cost-of-living, shows California’s poverty closer to the national average.
Given this clarity and context, we rate Mayes' statement True.
TRUE – The statement is accurate and there’s nothing significant missing.
Or how about something even newer, 2018.
The San Diego Union-Tribune
California ranks No. 1 in poverty once again. Take one guess why.
By ABBY HAMBLIN
SEP. 13, 2018 11:59 AM
California was given a first-place title this week that it surely doesn’t want.
It has the highest rate of poverty of any state in the country, according to new data from the U.S. Census Bureau.
As a whole, the U.S. saw its national poverty rate decrease slightly 0.4 percentage points. But the Golden State has its own unique poverty story to tell.
Here’s what you should know.
How does California stack up nationally?
The U.S. Census Bureau measures poverty in two ways every year.
Official poverty measure: The official measure compares all states the same based on income.
Supplemental poverty measure: This measure calculates poverty rates by taking into account the many government programs designed to assist low-income families and individuals that are not included in the official poverty measures. It is this measure that gives us a better idea of what’s going on in a state like California.
By the supplemental poverty measure, California’s estimated poverty rate is 19 percent. While it is a 1.4 percent decrease from the previous year, the rate remains the highest among states. It accounts for about 7.5 million Californians.
The next closest is Florida with 18.1 percent. Louisiana follows at 17.7 percent.
quote:
Louisiana follows at 17.7 percent.
Thanks John Bel Edwards
Posted on 7/12/19 at 7:49 am to buckeye_vol
They do have the highest child poverty rate according to the Annie Casey Foundation (which is not a right wing propaganda outfit by any stretch of the inagination) .
Posted on 7/12/19 at 8:19 am to L.A.
After spending significant time in California over the years, I would classify the people as strangely naive.
Posted on 7/12/19 at 8:26 am to L.A.
Who knew that letting millions of uneducated illegals into your state and taxiing and regulating your populace into oblivion would have a negative affect.
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