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re: looks like a push to change the limit on spcks in LA is coming or....
Posted on 7/18/19 at 9:34 am to wahoocs
Posted on 7/18/19 at 9:34 am to wahoocs
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I will become a full time golfer when it does Too much investment of time and money to be done in an hour.
I consider golf a total waste of time and money. As for catch and release I've stopped doing it with Redfish as I've found they get overly stressed and die after release when the water is hot. May be because I didn't pamper them enough before release but I have stopped it
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Posted on 7/18/19 at 9:52 am to RattleTrout
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RattleTrout
Posted on 7/18/19 at 9:55 am to RattleTrout
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Bottom line is that the trout population IS down. Anybody who fishes regularly knows this. Besides, the fishing experience is about the catching, not the keeping, right?
RattleTrout coming in Hot!
Posted on 7/18/19 at 10:03 am to RattleTrout
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compared to other states, we practice virtually zero stewardship
While I don’t necessarily disagree, I don’t like when people paint with such a broad brush. It’s not that black and white. Plenty of sportsman in this state do practice good stewardship. We do unfortunately have quite a few bad apples that spoil the bunch.
Posted on 7/18/19 at 10:17 am to PillageUrVillage
Alabama trout regs will change August 1 2019.
15”-22” slot
6 total trout
1 may be over 22”
15”-22” slot
6 total trout
1 may be over 22”
Posted on 7/18/19 at 10:25 am to RattleTrout
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We have awfully liberal limits (which is funny, because there are conservatives attacking people as "being democrats" when said "democrats" want the *liberal* limits removed, and the conservatives aren't conserving).
Speaking politics,
Liberals= want more governmental control (read: limits)
Conservatives= want little governmental control (read: no/less limiting)
Posted on 7/18/19 at 10:32 am to RattleTrout
quote:well said.. but.. Yes, land loss/estuary degradation is that bad... anyone that fished 30/40 years ago can tell you places that are virtually devoid of fish now(bay adams for instance) a generation ago you could fill a box up quickly on shad rigs...
the people saying that this needs to be based on science are overlooking the science that LDWF has put out (or they didn't know about it at all)
sure, there has been land loss, but not THAT much land loss
compared to other states, we practice virtually zero stewardship
It's all about catching as many fish as possible to show off on social media or fishing report sites, to boost that ego. Very important to the Chads of the world.
We have awfully liberal limits (which is funny, because there are conservatives attacking people as "being democrats" when said "democrats" want the *liberal* limits removed, and the conservatives aren't conserving).
Bottom line is that the trout population IS down. Anybody who fishes regularly knows this.
Besides, the fishing experience is about the catching, not the keeping, right?
Posted on 7/18/19 at 11:07 am to choupiquesushi
I still think we need to manage the trout regulations by zones. Almost like they do in the STAR Tournament have an East, Southeast, Southwest, and West Zone and manage the trout populations accordingly. This is especially important since most trout stay in a single estuary for their entire life.
Posted on 7/18/19 at 11:30 am to Drunken Crawfish
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Posted on 7/18/19 at 11:55 am to RattleTrout
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Bottom line is that the trout population IS down. Anybody who fishes regularly knows this.
No one is debating this I don't think. The argument is whether that's the result of overfishing or a reduction in carrying capacity. Proponents of a reduced limit would have you believe that if anglers stopped removing so many fish then the population would drastically increase. The other side argues that trout reproduce so quickly and experience such high natural mortality that the population will always maintain itself at the level dictated by food supply and habitat, and angling has a low impact on that. If fish are removed, there will be more food and habitat available to those left and recruitment will rise to accommodate it.
I'll admit my opinion is pretty well formed, but would be willing to look objectively at hard data supporting one or the other. It's anecdotal, but to me if things like low limits, catch and release, and reduced angling pressure produced more trout then you wouldn't be able to drop a live shrimp anywhere near Florida without a trout eating it.
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Besides, the fishing experience is about the catching, not the keeping, right?
Funny you mention politics, you believe others should be regulated on the basis of why you choose to do something?
Posted on 7/18/19 at 8:33 pm to Drunken Crawfish
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still think we need to manage the trout regulations by zones. Almost like they do in the STAR Tournament have an East, Southeast, Southwest, and West Zone and manage the trout populations accordingly. This is especially important since most trout stay in a single estuary for their entire life.
Agree 110%
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