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Posted on 6/25/19 at 6:41 pm
Posted by LSU6262
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Posted on 6/25/19 at 6:41 pm
Posted by High C
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Posted on 6/25/19 at 6:42 pm to
Sad what Hollywood has become.
Posted by rebelrouser
Columbia, SC
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 6/25/19 at 7:00 pm to
That is hilarious. Who downvoted that?
Posted by athenslife101
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Posted on 6/25/19 at 7:45 pm to
I mean, I’ve seen all but toy story 4 and they’re all watchable.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
64821 posts
Posted on 6/25/19 at 7:50 pm to
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Sad what Hollywood has become.

Hollywood is dominated by people who have no real creativity. The only interesting original ideas they've ever had are ones they steal from others.
Posted by PowerTool
The dark side of the road
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Posted on 6/25/19 at 8:27 pm to
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watchable


Posted by PNW_TigerSaint
Member since Oct 2016
1357 posts
Posted on 6/25/19 at 8:37 pm to
Looks like Will Smith got confused as to which movie he was supposed to be in.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
110328 posts
Posted on 6/25/19 at 8:39 pm to
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Hollywood is dominated by people who have no real creativity. The only interesting original ideas they've ever had are ones they steal from others.


Blame the consumer not Hollywood

There are tons of fantastic and indie low budget films being produced in Hollywood with big name actors

But the general public does not want that. But it doesn’t stop you from consuming it
Posted by TigerOnThe Hill
Springhill, LA
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 6/25/19 at 9:26 pm to
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I mean, I’ve seen all but toy story 4 and they’re all watchable

The only one I've seen is "Men In Black." Yeah, it was watchable, but barely. I thought it was pretty boring and had no creativity. OHOH, it seems like most movies these days are boring and lack creativity.
Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 6/25/19 at 9:53 pm to
fuggin incredible
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
64821 posts
Posted on 6/25/19 at 9:55 pm to
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Blame the consumer not Hollywood

No. That's a bullshite excuse. There have been many great major motion pictures that audiences loved.

And I really don't think the consumer is to blame for shite like TLJ and Lesbian Ghostbusters. Literally no one was crying out for that.
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There are tons of fantastic and indie low budget films
Great. Which gay/black/tranny crusader movie should I watch first?
Posted by Jay Are
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2014
6057 posts
Posted on 6/25/19 at 11:29 pm to
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Great. Which gay/black/tranny crusader movie should I watch first?


So all movies made outside of the big studios are crusader movies? Do you not actually watch anything besides Alex Jones? Go watch a movie before you bitch about it. What's the crusade in High Life? Or in High Flying Bird? Or in The Mustang? Or in Gloria Bell? Or even Booksmart? Half of those star and focus on white males -- ya know, that thing you likely claim can't exist in movies anymore.
Posted by jg8623
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2010
13533 posts
Posted on 6/25/19 at 11:42 pm to
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Blame the consumer not Hollywood

No. That's a bullshite excuse. There have been many great major motion pictures that audiences loved.



I think it’s a combination of both. Audiences have shown Hollywood that they’ll pay to go see all these sequels, remakes, and other cookie cutter big budget movies. And Hollywood has decided to take less risks and put fewer resources into new and original ideas that may or may not work out.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
64821 posts
Posted on 6/25/19 at 11:55 pm to
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Or even Booksmart?
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ya know, that thing you likely claim can't exist in movies anymore.
You have no idea whatsoever what I "likely claim" and I didn't say shite about white guys. I said that the originality is dead in major films. It is, and there's no way crap like TLJ and SJW Ghostbusters were a response to audience outcry. They were basically an excuse for having no original thought, posing as activism and intended to browbeat anyone who didn't like them with "_____-ist" epithets and other familiar whining.

And judging by fan reaction whenever some new sequel/remake is announced, it's clear that these projects aren't the result of consumer input. They're easy and require no originality, which is good, because they don't have any.
Posted by jg8623
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2010
13533 posts
Posted on 6/26/19 at 12:02 am to
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I said that the originality is dead in major films.


If we’re talking bigger budget movies($75M+) then I totally agree with you there. Unless your name is Nolan or Tarantino...
Posted by BoomBoomBoom
Member since Oct 2013
940 posts
Posted on 6/26/19 at 1:22 am to
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Hollywood is dominated by people who have no real creativity.
quote:

Blame the consumer not Hollywood
Blame the AIDS and the ghey
Posted by Tigeralum2008
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Member since Apr 2012
17702 posts
Posted on 6/26/19 at 9:23 am to
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Blame the consumer not Hollywood

There are tons of fantastic and indie low budget films being produced in Hollywood with big name actors

But the general public does not want that. But it doesn’t stop you from consuming it


If I’m paying $40 to watch something in a theatre, I want a big budget blockbuster that is using the sound/visual tech to its fullest potential.

I save the great indie screenplays for Netflix and other streaming services
Posted by Hoodoo Man
Sunshine Pumping most days.
Member since Oct 2011
31637 posts
Posted on 6/26/19 at 10:52 am to
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If I’m paying $40 to watch something in a theatre
I would go to a different theater.
You seem to be paying at least three times what I do.
Posted by Jay Are
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2014
6057 posts
Posted on 6/26/19 at 11:16 am to
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It is, and there's no way crap like TLJ and SJW Ghostbusters were a response to audience outcry. They were basically an excuse for having no original thought, posing as activism and intended to browbeat anyone who didn't like them with "_____-ist" epithets and other familiar whining.


There is no feminism in Ghostbusters. There's no messaging in TLJ. There's capitalism. Adding women or people of different color broadens appeal to a new demographic. Disney doesn't care about your identity politics. It cares about more money. This is reaction to Twitter reactions, not the actual movies. Same with Booksmart. "Girls party after studying a lot in high school. Having no experience, hijinks ensue." That's not a crusade. Reacting to the filmmaker's Twitter presence should not inform your perception of the content.

That said, I get that social media reactions are so loud and annoying that it's hard to not dislike the films people yell so much about. I wasn't responding to this. I was responding to the idiotic dismissal of smaller films.

Looking at the top grossing films of each decade, sequels and remakes have been going strong for a long time. Ben-hur and The Ten Commandments are both remakes that dominated the box office in the 50s. And then you have to really stretch the definition of "originality" to give Hollywood producers any credit. The majority of the top grossing films from each decade were based on well-established properties. I also long for more originality in film, but now, as it has always been with the movies, that originality is found in smaller films. Even Star Wars, the little film that became one of the most successful films of all time, is totally cribbed from Dune and The Hidden Fortress.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
38268 posts
Posted on 6/26/19 at 11:31 am to
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There is no feminism in Ghostbusters. There's no messaging in TLJ. There's capitalism.

The people financing this entertainment are the same Weinsteins and Moonveses who get busted for being raging womanizers. They're in it for the money.
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