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re: I really would like to understand the pro-choice POV as it relates to life

Posted on 6/24/19 at 5:32 am to
Posted by Nguyener
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Posted on 6/24/19 at 5:32 am to
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NC_Tigah


Honest question: do you have any kids?
Posted by LSU Patrick
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Posted on 6/24/19 at 5:46 am to
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Honest question: do you have any autonomous cell lumps?


Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 6/24/19 at 5:46 am to
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Honest question: do you have any kids?
Yes. Why do you ask?
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 6/24/19 at 5:50 am to
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Honest question: do you have any autonomous cell lumps?
Posted by Nguyener
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Posted on 6/24/19 at 6:05 am to
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. Why do you ask?


Because I find it hard to believe that you think at some point your kids weren't human. I don't understand the thought process behind that.
This post was edited on 6/24/19 at 6:06 am
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 6/24/19 at 6:08 am to
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Because I find it hard to believe that you think at some point your kids weren't human. I don't understand the thought process behind that.
Referring to the 45day embryo image?
Posted by Nguyener
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Posted on 6/24/19 at 6:09 am to
You posted that image and said it's not a human.

So therefore you think at some point your children were not human.
Posted by tigerpawl
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Posted on 6/24/19 at 6:12 am to
This post was edited on 6/24/19 at 6:36 am
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 6/24/19 at 6:18 am to
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You posted that image and said it's not a human.
Nguyener, it ISN'T human. It's a cow.
Posted by Nguyener
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Posted on 6/24/19 at 6:21 am to
Why are you posting cow fetuses?

I'm simply saying that at 45 days, aka 6ish weeks, a growing human fetus is a human.

You're trying to intentionally muddy this argument with a picture of a cow for some reason? Why?

This post was edited on 6/24/19 at 6:23 am
Posted by mindbreaker
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Posted on 6/24/19 at 6:26 am to
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to play God


Which God. There is a bunch
Posted by mahdragonz
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Posted on 6/24/19 at 6:36 am to
If a soldiers kills someone he stops a heartbeat, right?

Are some heartbeats more important than others?
Posted by tigerpawl
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Posted on 6/24/19 at 6:37 am to
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If a soldiers kills someone he stops a heartbeat, right? Are some heartbeats more important than others?

And when that same guy has a gun to your daughter's head, I'll be there with you to protect him. Theories are wonderful, aren't they?
This post was edited on 6/24/19 at 6:41 am
Posted by mindbreaker
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Posted on 6/24/19 at 6:38 am to
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How does killing a human life form improve the health of the vessel?



are you a medical professional? Because I've heard a doctor tell my girlfriend numerous times if she ever got pregnant the pregnancy would kill her. We take every precaution to prevent this and luckily we have never had to make that decision. But to advocate like this is an occurrence that never happens is just as disingenuous.
Posted by SDVTiger
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Posted on 6/24/19 at 6:40 am to
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Because I've heard a doctor tell my girlfriend numerous times if she ever got pregnant the pregnancy would kill her.


Posted by tigerpawl
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Posted on 6/24/19 at 6:45 am to
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We take every precaution to prevent this
Apparently you overlooked one. Did you tell her about the precaution of preventing his thingy entering her thingy? Call me old fashioned...

And you don't have to be a medical professional to make a call on this. A statistician might be more helpful. Which of the 45,789,558 was solely for medical reasons? Which were performed because of convenience? We'll never know, will we? LINK
This post was edited on 6/24/19 at 6:53 am
Posted by mindbreaker
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Posted on 6/24/19 at 6:50 am to
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Call me old fashioned...


Neither one of us subscribe to that antiquated way of thinking. We also don't believe in an ancient book of fairytails that tells us sex is bad unless married mmkay
Posted by tigerpawl
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Posted on 6/24/19 at 6:57 am to
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We also don't believe in an ancient book of fairytails that tells us sex is bad unless married mmkay
OK - I'll dance with you here. Of the 2 of them, doesn't at least one of them know what causes pregnancy? Ignorance is no longer an excuse to kill a viable life form.

Posted by mindbreaker
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Posted on 6/24/19 at 6:59 am to
I never made a claim one way or the other on abortions occurring that weren't dangerous to the life of the mother. You made the claim using that argument was disingenuous I was showing you that making broad statements like that with the intent being to show it never happens is just as disingenuous.

I think there are ways to reduce and prevent abortions beside broad strokes of just outright making it illegal. But no-one wants to discuss those real solutions because it puts them in danger of stepping down from their moral high ground platform just a little bit.

Posted by SDVTiger
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Posted on 6/24/19 at 7:01 am to
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But no-one wants to discuss those real solutions because it puts them in danger of stepping down from their moral high ground platform just a little bit.



Please enlighten everyone with your real solutions
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