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re: Settle an argument.. Is Vince Young top ten all time?
Posted on 6/12/19 at 10:14 am to Bench McElroy
Posted on 6/12/19 at 10:14 am to Bench McElroy
quote:
His overall numbers were very pedestrian but he was an unbelievably good big game and bowl game QB.
For Elway? He got slaughtered in 3 SBs before winning a couple.
Posted on 6/12/19 at 10:14 am to Jon Ham
Because I have buddies that say absolutely he isn’t.
Posted on 6/12/19 at 10:15 am to crewdepoo
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So deshaun Watson is up there too I guess
i mean yeah. he won a national title and went for over 500 yds of offense in the title game
upon further review: watson did not win a heisman, but i would still put him over eric crouch fwiw
This post was edited on 6/12/19 at 10:18 am
Posted on 6/12/19 at 10:15 am to TigerintheNO
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No, the following 10 QBs have better college careers
Manziel
Tebow
Frazier
Staubach
O'Brien
Wuerffel
Manning
Elway
Testaverde
Leinart
you have to be shitting me
and I hate Texas
but this is a horrible list
Posted on 6/12/19 at 10:15 am to Bench McElroy
His record was 3-3 against Oklahoma& bowl games, doesn’t sound all that great to me
Posted on 6/12/19 at 10:17 am to Zendog
quote:
His record was 3-3 against Oklahoma& bowl games, doesn’t sound all that great to me
1-0 in national titles against the previously proclaimed GOAT team.
Posted on 6/12/19 at 10:21 am to TexasTiger1185
quote:
How did manziel have a better career?
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Posted on 6/12/19 at 10:22 am to Zendog
2-0 in Rose Bowls outweighs the loss in the Holiday Bowl.
Posted on 6/12/19 at 10:27 am to TigerintheNO
quote:
Manziel
Tebow
Frazier
Staubach
O'Brien
Wuerffel
Manning
Elway
Testaverde
Leinart
You forgot
Vick
Brees
Marino
Rivers
Palmer
Rodgers
Griffin III
I didn’t look at the top 10 but here’s 11-25
this ranking, we focused on the following statistics:
Team win percentage (From seasons when the quarterback was the primary starter or played at least half of the offensive snaps)
Career passer rating
Touchdowns generated per season (All TDs each player threw, ran for or caught during years they were the primary starter)
Total offense per game (All passing yards and yards from scrimmage gained during years they were the primary starter)
Career interception percentage
To qualify for this ranking, a quarterback had to meet a certain minimum threshold in at least four of those categories or in three of them if they were a Heisman Trophy winner. The minimums were .700 team win percentage, 150.0 passer rating, 25 touchdowns per season, 250 yards per game of total offense and less than a 4 percent interception rate.
This left us with 25 eligible quarterbacks.
After identifying the 25 best candidates for this ranking, the scoring system described on the previous slide did the rest of the work. Sixteen finalists were Heisman Trophy winners, but only five of those made the top 10.
Here's who missed the cut:
11. Jameis Winston, Florida State
12. Case Keenum, Houston
13. Robert Griffin III, Baylor
14. Andre Ware, Houston
15. Jason White, Oklahoma
16. Danny Wuerffel, Florida
17. Ty Detmer, BYU
18. Troy Smith, Ohio State
19. Andrew Luck, Stanford
20. Colt McCoy, Texas
21. Chris Weinke, Florida State
22. Gino Torretta, Miami (Florida)
23. Charlie Ward, Florida State
24. Landry Jones, Oklahoma
25. Vince Young, Texas
This post was edited on 6/12/19 at 10:29 am
Posted on 6/12/19 at 10:33 am to Dire Wolf
How’s that bait? Manziel did have a great career.
Posted on 6/12/19 at 10:34 am to Dire Wolf
its only bait because texas fans know that manziel was the better player
Posted on 6/12/19 at 10:37 am to Hook Em Horns
By the numbers, Dorsey is better if we looking at career
Posted on 6/12/19 at 10:42 am to WestCoastAg
Yea cause third in the sec west means more than big 12 champs and a national champion and rose bowl champion. Foh
Posted on 6/12/19 at 10:43 am to WestCoastAg
quote:
its only bait because texas fans know that manziel was the better player
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I don't think Texas will trade.
Posted on 6/12/19 at 10:45 am to Hook Em Horns
1. Dorsey was way better than VY in college.
2. Manziel was way better than VY in college.
3. Your buddies are correct in that he does not have a seat in the all time top 10 list.
4. This thread proved that.
2. Manziel was way better than VY in college.
3. Your buddies are correct in that he does not have a seat in the all time top 10 list.
4. This thread proved that.
Posted on 6/12/19 at 10:45 am to Hook Em Horns
i have absolutely no idea what those team accomplishments mean when discussing individual players skill and statistics but alright
Posted on 6/12/19 at 10:52 am to WestCoastAg
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i have absolutely no idea what those team accomplishments mean when discussing individual players skill and statistics but alright
Yeah because you don't have the team accomplishments to fall back on.
VY that year completed 65% for 3000 yards 26/10 TD/int, and ran for 1000 with 12 more TDs at 7 YPC.
In that title game he completed 75% for 267 and ran for 200 and 3 TDs.
In their last games, Young played lights out and won a title. Manziel barely beat Duke in the chicken bowl.
Posted on 6/12/19 at 10:54 am to WestCoastAg
reggie mcneal was better than manziel, manziel just had a better team around him. particularly the offensive line
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