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Posted on 5/19/19 at 11:21 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Knowing what we know now or knowing what we knew in December 1941?
Posted on 5/19/19 at 11:21 pm to AbuTheMonkey
Knowing what we know now
Posted on 5/19/19 at 11:23 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Germans as frick
You are
You are
Posted on 5/19/19 at 11:25 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Hmm,
Not teaming up with that butcher Stalin (killed more than Hitler) and wrecking the Soviet Union does have an appeal.
Not teaming up with that butcher Stalin (killed more than Hitler) and wrecking the Soviet Union does have an appeal.
Posted on 5/19/19 at 11:26 pm to TrueTiger
Interesting
Posted on 5/19/19 at 11:28 pm to Draconian Sanctions
The Allies. The Germany, Italy and Japan of today are that way because of how WWII unfolded.
Posted on 5/19/19 at 11:29 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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Knowing what we know now
Fight the Japanese pretty much as we did and fight the Germans on our own (along with the British and Free French) terms. Let them bleed the Soviets even more and delay the second front. Support Chiang in China more vigorously. Probably should’ve gotten into Greece and the Balkans earlier.
Again, knowing what we know now, we had our hand forced into softly choosing a side between two extraordinarily evil and hellishly lethal ideologies, and we should’ve played it a little more neutrally. The war was in reality a tripolar war that became bipolar because of Roosevelt’s sympathies.
This post was edited on 5/19/19 at 11:38 pm
Posted on 5/19/19 at 11:32 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Allies but once I conquered a country I would have claimed the land and made slaves out of their native population while at the same time never allowing them to produce offspring. Eventually i would have ended slavery as well as their entire culture.
Posted on 5/19/19 at 11:39 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Are you waiting for someone to say they’d fight the allies or something?
I do remember seeing a couple posters a while back say we shouldn’t have fought the Nazis (and Italians). Just leave Europe to their own devices or something like that.
I do remember seeing a couple posters a while back say we shouldn’t have fought the Nazis (and Italians). Just leave Europe to their own devices or something like that.
Posted on 5/19/19 at 11:50 pm to 1BamaRTR
I'm assuming he's going after the "Stalin killed more innocents" angle. I'm a sense he's right because some poor Polish bastard dying is the same as a Jewish man being killed.
Where he's wrong is the wording of the question, falsely inferring it's a zero sum situation.
Where he's wrong is the wording of the question, falsely inferring it's a zero sum situation.
Posted on 5/19/19 at 11:52 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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Knowing what you know now, would you join the Axis or the Allies?
Since the attack by the Japanese occurred on December 7th, corresponding with their declaration of war, AND Germany, because of their treaty of alliance with Japan declared war on us on December 11th - we were then in a formal state of war with Japan AND Germany. Germany, at that point, had occupied France and was in a formal state of war with allied powers Great Britain and the Soviet Union.
So, knowing what I know now, I join the Allies and do things differently to set up post war conditions in Europe.
There is literally no sense in joining the Axis. Period. Full stop.
This post was edited on 5/20/19 at 12:04 am
Posted on 5/19/19 at 11:55 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Allies.
I'd take Berlin before Russia (we could have), and I'd go to war with Russia immediately after.
I'd take Berlin before Russia (we could have), and I'd go to war with Russia immediately after.
Posted on 5/19/19 at 11:56 pm to Ace Midnight
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There is literally no sense in joining the Axis.
Not much choice since they bombed you.
But I wouldn't have sent Stalin any help.
Posted on 5/20/19 at 12:04 am to TrueTiger
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But I wouldn't have sent Stalin any help.
And I would have kept the Rosenbergs and all the other commies out of the Manhattan project.
Posted on 5/20/19 at 12:09 am to NikolaiJakov
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Posted on 5/20/19 at 12:11 am to Draconian Sanctions
I'd join the A-Team. Mr. T and George Peppard could kick arse.
Posted on 5/20/19 at 3:54 am to KCT
-I would have fought it out and not allied with Russia. I do things on my timetable not giving a damn about the Russians, knowing the Nazis can never defeat them and let them bleed each other white.
Knowing that Gen.Lesley Mc Nair is an idiot, I junk his stupid "tank destroyer" doctrine and start building improved M26 heavy tanks and maybe something heavier to supplement the hordes of Shermans, to take on the big German tanks and the Ivans if it comes to it later. Give my infantry bigger antitank weapons. Its gonna be a tank war, make the enemy bleed.
In the Pacific I pull up at long B29 range, and await the nukes.Try to save as many American lives as possible. Offer the Japanese an armistice, let them keep their emperor. Sit well back, let them starve, stay away from the Kamikazes, and finally nuke em.
Knowing that Gen.Lesley Mc Nair is an idiot, I junk his stupid "tank destroyer" doctrine and start building improved M26 heavy tanks and maybe something heavier to supplement the hordes of Shermans, to take on the big German tanks and the Ivans if it comes to it later. Give my infantry bigger antitank weapons. Its gonna be a tank war, make the enemy bleed.
In the Pacific I pull up at long B29 range, and await the nukes.Try to save as many American lives as possible. Offer the Japanese an armistice, let them keep their emperor. Sit well back, let them starve, stay away from the Kamikazes, and finally nuke em.
This post was edited on 5/20/19 at 3:56 am
Posted on 5/20/19 at 5:56 am to antibarner
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not giving a damn about the Russians, knowing the Nazis can never defeat them
pretty much, knowing that Russia can beat the Nazis by themselves and that Britain had halted Nazi expansion westward means that the U.S. doesn't have to send waves of bomber crews to die over Germany
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n the Pacific I pull up at long B29 range, and await the nukes.
knowing that the Japanese army was already stretched thin in China and that they were never going to beat the U.S. (they knew it too), I agree, just go about depleting their navy that they could not replace, and work on the nukes
also, work a deal with Britain that we keep them supplied in exchange for oil rich areas of the Saudi peninsula and start putting bases there (no one knew had damn much oil was really there at the time)
Posted on 5/20/19 at 6:17 am to imjustafatkid
quote:this is the only answer
Allies.
I'd take Berlin before Russia (we could have), and I'd go to war with Russia immediately after.
we should have listened to Patton, or was George one of the 1st victims of the "deep state" that Ike (correctly) warned us about
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