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re: Is F King next on the chopping block?
Posted on 4/22/19 at 12:00 am to Moremiles
Posted on 4/22/19 at 12:00 am to Moremiles
Only like 200 kids are getting in through the holistic system and it’ll only be used for certain circumstance it isn’t lowering academic standards that being said FKing still needs to go
Posted on 4/22/19 at 12:35 am to Moremiles
Frist time in several years I felt this positive concerning LSU athletics. Perhaps a new era has dawned.
Posted on 4/22/19 at 12:39 am to Moremiles
His contract does run until 2023. So it’s a bit more to buyout than Alleva
Posted on 4/22/19 at 12:41 am to PurpleNGold
As far as King Pussy it's not a matter of if but when. I'd be interested to see the short list of name replacements for the new president of LSU.
Posted on 4/22/19 at 12:48 am to Moremiles
I doubt it. Alleva is still here in a different position.
Posted on 4/22/19 at 4:16 am to MLU
quote:King was appointed to head LSU in 2013....who was the gov then? BTW...the rant has Lipsey walking on water (which is possible) check out is choice for gov.
If JBE think that Alexander could possibly cost him re-election, then his days are numbered...
Posted on 4/22/19 at 4:34 am to Moremiles
Sure hope he is on the block and gone. Should have been fired with Miles after screwing up the Jimbo Hire along with our boy Joe.
Posted on 4/22/19 at 5:36 am to GoodOleBoy54
quote:LSU should set up its own version of Georgia's HOPE Scholarship.
Only like 200 kids are getting in through the holistic system and it’ll only be used for certain circumstance it isn’t lowering academic standards that being said FKing still needs to go
Posted on 4/22/19 at 5:59 am to MLU
And I got laughed at on PT for suggesting the removal of Alleva would benefit JBE in re-election. The average voter cares about this shite and Edwards knows. He’s still being beaten over the head for allowing king to threaten to stop football
Posted on 4/22/19 at 6:10 am to Moremiles
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seems like the Board of Supervisors is calling the shots now I
They always were if they wanted to be.
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I think F. King is the root of the problem,
I don't, in terms of athletics, but that is not a popular opinion. I don't recall him being a factor prior to the Les Miles situation in 2015. Not even during the Trent Johnson, Johnny Jones transition.
The Miles debacle, with the leaks and deafening silence from Alleva as AD almost dictated he do something and Alleva has been making PR nightmares from that time forward.
I suspect F King would like nothing better than to fade into the background in terms of athletics PR. Woodwards lets him do that.
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What's yall's opinions on F. King's job security?
If he pulls off the 1.5 billion giving campaign, he'll be golden.
Posted on 4/22/19 at 6:46 am to NC_Tigah
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LSU should set up its own version of Georgia's HOPE Scholarship
It was called TOPS but it somehow wholly failed to become what HOPE is
Posted on 4/22/19 at 7:24 am to LSU615
Moscow’s does know what he is talking about. JBE is well aware about how fking is precieved. Not as close as you think.
Posted on 4/22/19 at 7:27 am to Moremiles
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I think he's lowering the academic standards of LSU as well with the holistic admission system he implemented. Changing the admissions system to holistic is a lot better headline than changing the minimum ACT score, which is what's happening in reality.
Let me start by saying I have been disappointed in the number of scandals (from Lab School to Vet School to votes of no confidence) that have plagued the university in recent years. I have made my frustration known to the Foundation and Alumni Association.
But any claim about “lowering standards” is eye-roll-inducing because you’ve ignored that college admissions can and should be based on multiple measures. The true test of LSU’s admissions system is whether students are persisting and graduating. If retention and graduation numbers grow, then LSU is moving in the right direction. Based on early reports, this seems to be happening. From what I can tell, in sorting through the noise, LSU is looking more thoroughly at a student’s record to see if there are signs a student can be successful if their standardized test scores are just below the cutoffs set just a couple of decades ago. The ACT and SAT aren’t perfect predictors of college success. So it makes sense to take a closer look at students who hover around a cutoff score. Some schools are throwing out ACT and SAT and even GRE score requirements — so LSU is not alone in looking beyond those single measures. But LSU hasn’t thrown these out altogether. Nor is LSU totally ignoring these scores. If the retention and graduation numbers hold up (and even overall average scores), then this is a great move for the University.
This post was edited on 4/22/19 at 7:51 am
Posted on 4/22/19 at 7:52 am to johnfredlsu
The ACT and GRE are crap test anyways I scored low on both barely got into college. Past college just fine and even ended with a 4.0 master’s degree. Some people just can’t take standardized test well. I agree with the holistic approaches. Thank god for NLU for taken me in ,but F. King is a D Bag anyways.
Posted on 4/22/19 at 7:54 am to Moremiles
We can only hope, but he's a loyal Democrat soldier; I'm sure JBE has his back.
Posted on 4/22/19 at 8:03 am to Amish threesome
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Past college just fine and even ended with a 4.0 master’s degree.
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Thank god for NLU for taken me in ,but F. King is a D Bag anyways.
I call bullshite on the 4.0.
Posted on 4/22/19 at 8:08 am to Amish threesome
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Passed college just fine and even ended with a 4.0 masters' degree. Some people just can’t take standardized test well. I agree with the holistic approaches. Thank god for NLU for taking me in, but F. King is a D Bag anyway.
FIFY
This post was edited on 4/22/19 at 8:19 am
Posted on 4/22/19 at 8:09 am to johnfredlsu
Long time reader, but new member and first time poster.
I am still on the fence regarding holistic admissions. In concept, it can work. The problem is the intentional vagueness of the messaging creates immense skepticism. Take the press release you linked for example: "...a 30% increase in achieving a 31 or higher.." Why not use their standard breakpoint of 30 or higher? Because it is an 18% increase, still good, but not the 30% that is based on a much lower number. They also had an increase of 18% of students who scored between 18-23 on the ACT. Using the same obfuscatory data comparison, the number of students with a score in the range of 12-17 increased by 167%.
Other issues:
"earned more credits in the first semester than the previous two incoming classes"
Shouldn't the largest class on record earn more credits than smaller classes?
How did holistic review help in the admission of students who scored 31 or higher? It didn't. Putting those statistics in the release is an intentional distraction.
What about a better predictor of college success (high school class rank)? 23% of the freshman class ranked in the bottom half of their high school graduating class. That is nearly 1 in 4. Compare that to LSU's peer group. Scary.
Selective use of data is a spin tactic most organizations use. It is not a good approach when attempting to defend a controversial new policy.
I am still on the fence regarding holistic admissions. In concept, it can work. The problem is the intentional vagueness of the messaging creates immense skepticism. Take the press release you linked for example: "...a 30% increase in achieving a 31 or higher.." Why not use their standard breakpoint of 30 or higher? Because it is an 18% increase, still good, but not the 30% that is based on a much lower number. They also had an increase of 18% of students who scored between 18-23 on the ACT. Using the same obfuscatory data comparison, the number of students with a score in the range of 12-17 increased by 167%.
Other issues:
"earned more credits in the first semester than the previous two incoming classes"
Shouldn't the largest class on record earn more credits than smaller classes?
How did holistic review help in the admission of students who scored 31 or higher? It didn't. Putting those statistics in the release is an intentional distraction.
What about a better predictor of college success (high school class rank)? 23% of the freshman class ranked in the bottom half of their high school graduating class. That is nearly 1 in 4. Compare that to LSU's peer group. Scary.
Selective use of data is a spin tactic most organizations use. It is not a good approach when attempting to defend a controversial new policy.
Posted on 4/22/19 at 8:40 am to CasualBystander
I hear you. But did you have similar concerns about early retention numbers? Freshmen GPAs staying unchanged? And are the credit hour claims an average or total number? (That last one isn’t clear to me from the release although I’ll go with a more conservative guess that it was total hours, as you've suggested it might be.)
Certainly there’s some spin going on—and part of that is to counter the narrative that LSU has “lowered” standards, which should aptly be described as employing multiple measures and paying attention to students at the margins. It takes a lot of work to support student retention and graduation. Those are the numbers we should be paying almost attention to. And that’s where LSU needs to continue to improve.
Wasting TOPs money is a huge issue...and it was a huge issue more than a decade ago when I was at LSU. Admitting a small number of hardworking students at the lower end of the standardizing test score scale didn’t create that problem...and by early accounts doesn’t seem to be exacerbating the problem.
We simply need more time to see the effects of the changes. On principle I believe that offering students who are at the margins of a cutoff score an opportunity to perform, grow, and be supported at a state university is something we should all embrace. It’s often a dream come true for students.
I also get the sense that some folks who are rejecting the holistic process are seeing some nefarious purposes undergirding this shift in admissions policy. But for the life of me, I can’t dream up anything nefarious about this policy.
Btw, is “Casual Bystander” an account for creating more spin? My spidey senses are tingling honestly... Those extra stats at your fingertips don’t point to “casual” or “bystander.”
Certainly there’s some spin going on—and part of that is to counter the narrative that LSU has “lowered” standards, which should aptly be described as employing multiple measures and paying attention to students at the margins. It takes a lot of work to support student retention and graduation. Those are the numbers we should be paying almost attention to. And that’s where LSU needs to continue to improve.
Wasting TOPs money is a huge issue...and it was a huge issue more than a decade ago when I was at LSU. Admitting a small number of hardworking students at the lower end of the standardizing test score scale didn’t create that problem...and by early accounts doesn’t seem to be exacerbating the problem.
We simply need more time to see the effects of the changes. On principle I believe that offering students who are at the margins of a cutoff score an opportunity to perform, grow, and be supported at a state university is something we should all embrace. It’s often a dream come true for students.
I also get the sense that some folks who are rejecting the holistic process are seeing some nefarious purposes undergirding this shift in admissions policy. But for the life of me, I can’t dream up anything nefarious about this policy.
Btw, is “Casual Bystander” an account for creating more spin? My spidey senses are tingling honestly... Those extra stats at your fingertips don’t point to “casual” or “bystander.”
This post was edited on 4/22/19 at 2:38 pm
Posted on 4/22/19 at 9:00 am to Moremiles
F. King just does not have the skill set to handle the positions given to him. He is not able to navigate the political waters to obtain adequate funding to the system and seems intimidated by the whole process. when funding fails, he grasps at straws to try to hold things together, cannibalizing system assets in the process. What he has done in Shreveport, for example, has resulted in huge losses to the system assets there and the community as a whole.
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