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re: Interesting facts about slavery I'll bet you didn't know.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 9:37 am to MrCarton
Posted on 4/10/19 at 9:37 am to MrCarton
quote:since when is stating facts a "tactic"
terrible conservative tactic
there has been incredible misinformation from the left about slavery. people trying to correct the record is not a tactic. this false narrative has been weaponized and tons of youth have been indoctrinated to the point that a sitting member of congress is openly and actively talking about reparations. how in the world are you going to "pay back" current people of african descent for slavery, especially when many of the slave owners were africans themselves. it's extortion plain and simple. and now the left is talking about sending central america money so they won't flood the southern us border.
people don't realize all you're really doing is stoking the fire. once they realize they can get paid, they're going to up the ante
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Posted on 4/10/19 at 9:39 am to AggieHank86
quote:So you don't debate facts, in the OP. You simply downgrade importance of them in the broader sense.
AggieHank86
For consistency, if any atrocity or crime is considered, do you similarly dismiss a minority incidence as the horror it is?
Posted on 4/10/19 at 9:39 am to bfniii
quote:
since when is stating facts a "tactic"
At this point, I've discussed the issue enough that I shouldn't have to explain this again. Let me know if you get to the end of the thread and still have questions about my take.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 9:44 am to NC_Tigah
quote:Could you try this again ... in English this time?
So you don't debate facts, in the OP. You simply downgrade importance of them in the broader sense.
For consistency, if any atrocity or crime is considered, do you similarly dismiss a minority incidence as the horror it is?
I THINK you think that I am dismissing slavery by Blacks or apologizing for it ... or something.
No, I am simply saying that the OP was full of shite in certain claims he made about one particular slave owner.
And I am confident that the Ellison meme got its start from someone who actually KNEW that Ellison was NOT the largest slave owner in either of the Carolinas and that the lie has been perpetuated SOLELY because Ellison was Black.
This post was edited on 4/10/19 at 9:49 am
Posted on 4/10/19 at 9:44 am to Bass Tiger
quote:Usually the further young folks move away from the influence of college academia and into the real world, the more moderate their views become.
I really believe a lot of Americans, particularly those over age 30 are finding this out and they're no longer buying the race baiting, white privilege, and the you're a victim of wealthy white conservatives keeping ya down.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 9:46 am to MrCarton
quote:You don't have to explain anything. You're free to leave at anytime.
I shouldn't have to explain this again
However, OP validity rests in the fact that descendants of cited black slaveholders would almost certainly fall in line for reparations, while being paid by descendants of white families who lost everything in opposing slavery.
Is that justice?
Posted on 4/10/19 at 9:48 am to NC_Tigah
620,000 deaths in the Civil War. There are your reparations.
/thread
/thread
Posted on 4/10/19 at 9:52 am to NC_Tigah
quote:
However, OP validity rests in the fact that descendants of cited black slaveholders would almost certainly fall in line for reparations, while being paid by descendants of white families who lost everything in opposing slavery.
Is that justice?
Wtf are you talking about?
Posted on 4/10/19 at 9:53 am to Eli Goldfinger
quote:
Democrats founded Planned Parenthood to destroy the Black Family
This one probably isn’t true.
Its absolutely true, look up Margret Sanger and her goals for society
Posted on 4/10/19 at 9:54 am to MrCarton
quote:He is saying that Ellison’s descendants should not receive reparations today from the descendants of Union soldiers.quote:Wtf are you talking about?
However, OP validity rests in the fact that descendants of cited black slaveholders would almost certainly fall in line for reparations, while being paid by descendants of white families who lost everything in opposing slavery.
Is that justice?
Reparations 150 years ex post facto is a stupid concept. Hell, Ellison’s modern descendants are PROBABLY also descended from Union soldiers.
This post was edited on 4/10/19 at 9:56 am
Posted on 4/10/19 at 9:55 am to AggieHank86
Wtf does that have to do with the response he quoted?
Posted on 4/10/19 at 9:57 am to Walkthedawg
quote:well, there are some minor historical details that need revision.
the ghetto channel on sirius says these facts were lies this morning
anthony johnson was apparently not the first slave owner but the first legally sanctioned by a court.
william ellison was in scar, not ncar. and he had the most slaves for a black owner, not the most overall
the rest of the objection comes from imprecise words like "most" and "for years"
granted, i didn't hear the report in question but in summary, the responses to this list that i've read are nitpicking the details and missing the overall narrative which is that
slavery was NOT white colonial euros traipsing through the jungles of africa plucking innocent women and children from their families while they were singing and preparing food.
one of my objections is with the encapsulating term "slavery." it's an unhelpful generalization. we need to look at specific aspects of the trade and individuals and take them on their own merits, not try to blanket everyone as evil white people and innocent black people
Posted on 4/10/19 at 9:58 am to MrCarton
quote:
Wtf are you talking about?
What am I talking about regarding reparations?
or
Regarding black slaveholders?
or
Regarding white families who lost everything in opposing slavery?
Posted on 4/10/19 at 9:59 am to MrCarton
quote:i'm not sure i agree. someone has to fight the false narrative with a reasonable, informed response. someone has to be the red pill doctor. otherwise, you're going to get a world full of aoc's
When you engage it, you lose
Posted on 4/10/19 at 10:01 am to More&Les
quote:Sanger was neither an angel nor a demon.
look up Margret Sanger and her goals for society
As to Blacks, her goal was to provide birth control and thereby (a) reduce family size and (b) preseve the health of Black women.
Was she ALSO motivated by the resulting reduction in Black poplation growth over time? Quite possibly. But is is difficult to believe that this was her sole (or even primary) motivation, given that she was offering the same services to women of ALL ethnicities.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 10:01 am to coachcrisp
But, but, but Wakanka!
The original black slaves were forsaken by their own. Don't expect that little factoid to be received well by BLM and other black supremacy groups though.
According to them, skin color can only be used a basis for judgment of one's behavior if it makes a white person look evil and inhumane, and a black person look innocent, altruistic, or a hapless victim.
The original black slaves were forsaken by their own. Don't expect that little factoid to be received well by BLM and other black supremacy groups though.
According to them, skin color can only be used a basis for judgment of one's behavior if it makes a white person look evil and inhumane, and a black person look innocent, altruistic, or a hapless victim.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 10:01 am to MrCarton
quote:He tends to babble. I was just trying to translate.
Wtf does that have to do with the response he quoted?
Posted on 4/10/19 at 10:03 am to AggieHank86
Ahh
Posted on 4/10/19 at 10:05 am to MrCarton
quote:what does this even mean? acting on feeling does not mean someone is making a rational, logical, well informed decision. like crimes of passion. emotions do serve us well but they often make us do/say inadvisable things. they also deny the truth at times. such as cognitive dissonance
This is just not true, and It doesn't matter how many times that worm Ben Shapiro says it. Feeling actually don't care about facts and people act based on how they feel.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 10:05 am to AggieHank86
quote:
Sanger was neither an angel nor a demon.
Someone who wanted to eliminate the lack race from America isn’t a demon? Yeesh Hank.
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