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re: Interesting facts about slavery I'll bet you didn't know.

Posted on 4/10/19 at 7:56 am to
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 4/10/19 at 7:56 am to
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Which is ridiculous


It is what it is.
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
14248 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 7:57 am to
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The fact that there were a few nonwhite slave owners doesn’t change much substantively, tbh


Does the OP make this claim? I don't think he does
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
58162 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 7:58 am to
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The fact that there were a few nonwhite slave owners doesn’t change much substantively, tbh


Yeah it just changes the entire narrative and approach of the DNC and proves there is an entire educational system run by Democrats designed to manipulate blacks and keep them ignorant
Posted by DemonKA3268
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2015
19310 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 8:00 am to
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Right, they are going to do this because it's good for their disparate coalition. But the right should stop engaging them on this shite at all. It's a losing battle.
Maybe so. Perhaps it should be not talked about, period. It's a losing battle for ALL parties involved.
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 8:00 am to
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Maybe so. Perhaps it should be not talked about, period. It's a losing battle for ALL parties involved.


Never interrupt your enemy when he's making a mistake.
This post was edited on 4/10/19 at 8:01 am
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54461 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 8:02 am to
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The fact that there were a few nonwhite slave owners doesn’t change much substantively, tbh




So if a white guy and a black guy go rob a bank and the white guy kills four people during the robbery and the black guy only kills one then the white guy is the worser killer of the two?
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 8:03 am to
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The largest slave owner in Louisiana was a black woman
No. Like Ellison, the widow C. Richards was the largest BLACK slave owner in her state.
This post was edited on 4/10/19 at 8:05 am
Posted by DemonKA3268
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2015
19310 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 8:03 am to
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That’s all very interesting, but slavery still was an awful de-humanizing institution. Regardless of who “owned” slaves. The fact that there were a few nonwhite slave owners doesn’t change much substantively, tbh
Thank you, Captain Obvious. No fricking shite it was horrible. Been over for an extremely long time. Move forward or stay stuck in the past. Either way, it isn't going to change what has happened.
This post was edited on 4/10/19 at 8:10 am
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
Top secret lab
Member since Feb 2004
52833 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 8:04 am to
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It is what it is.


We should point out, ridicule, and humiliate this idiots at every chance.

We should point and laugh hysterically in their faces.

We should shame them into sense or until they cower in their parent's basements
Posted by CBLSU316
Far Right of Left
Member since Jun 2008
11394 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 8:04 am to
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There's absolutely no reason for us to be discussing slavery in 2019


Posted by wfallstiger
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jun 2006
11990 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 8:04 am to
I doubt this matter will ever settle. Enslaving others, irrespective of by whom, removes others from their natural habitat/customs and the likes and places them elsewhere, anchorless - that by itself is unsettling.

Slavery ends, by brutal means, and there is a winner and a loser. The loser is pissed and the winner adds fuel to the fire by being heavy handed.

We now have a displaced people being displaced again in the midst of pretty pissed off winners and losers. Still anchorless, no unifying culture, winners/losers trying to recover from self inflicted brutality.

The decades roll along with all types of shenanigans - political, social, financial, you name it and it plays out in race relations, particularly with those brought against will.

The answer, there is no answer. Some of us - all races - will make our way in this place called America. While others, for whatever reason(s) - all races - will lose out and pass to their future.

Is the African Americans American experience different, you bet it is. Can it be overcome? Yes and we have evidence of such. Will others keep playing political football with it? You bet, as long as there is oxygen to fuel.

For me, I try to acknowledge the history but cannot be held hostage to it. Am beyond grateful for where I find myself and wouldn't choose anywhere else to be.
Posted by DemonKA3268
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2015
19310 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 8:04 am to
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Never interrupt your enemy when he's making a mistake.
Lol, that list is so long, it's hard for some to do that.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67704 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 8:05 am to
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There's absolutely no reason for us to be discussing slavery in 2019.

This

This cannot be said enough
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 8:05 am to
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We should point and laugh hysterically in their faces.

We should shame them into sense or until they cower in their parent's basements


I'm all about this, just don't let them set the frame of the conversation.
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 8:06 am to
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Lol, that list is so long, it's hard for some to do that.


That's true, but it's also a critical weakness of modern conservatism. Stop looking to attack what your enemies are doing and start doing your own stuff. IOW, quit being so reactive. It's a bad strategy.
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 8:07 am to
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Democrats founded Planned Parenthood to destroy the Black Family


This one probably isn’t true.
Posted by DemonKA3268
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2015
19310 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 8:07 am to
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doubt this matter will ever settle. Enslaving others, irrespective of by whom, removes others from their natural habitat/customs and the likes and places them elsewhere, anchorless - that by itself is unsettling. Slavery ends, by brutal means, and there is a winner and a loser. The loser is pissed and the winner adds fuel to the fire by being heavy handed. We now have a displaced people being displaced again in the midst of pretty pissed off winners and losers. Still anchorless, no unifying culture, winners/losers trying to recover from self inflicted brutality. The decades roll along with all types of shenanigans - political, social, financial, you name it and it plays out in race relations, particularly with those brought against will. The answer, there is no answer. Some of us - all races - will make our way in this place called America. While others, for whatever reason(s) - all races - will lose out and pass to their future. Is the African Americans American experience different, you bet it is. Can it be overcome? Yes and we have evidence of such. Will others keep playing political football with it? You bet, as long as there is oxygen to fuel. For me, I try to acknowledge the history but cannot be held hostage to it. Am beyond grateful for where I find myself and wouldn't choose anywhere else to be.
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 8:07 am to
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They aren't going to stop. They own the multi ethnic coalition of American politics. Why would they stop?

You can't win on this issue. When you engage it, you lose. Because engaging it in this manner gives them control over the conversation. It assumes their frame


I agree with you, in part.

The problem is, we're not their audience. Hell, the general public isn't even their audience.

When in the company of the general public, I agree, we should avoid engaging them in it because it legitimizes the subject matter and keeps it relevant. However, when the audience is limited to just their diehards we should absolutely hammer them on it because who knows, maybe we can flip a few and get them woke AF.

Walk away from the Democrat Plantation, Etc
This post was edited on 4/10/19 at 8:08 am
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 8:09 am to
Sure, I'll concede your point. I think it's a great point. The key here is to avoid engaging on their terms. Don't adopt their terms. Set your own.
Posted by DemonKA3268
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2015
19310 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 8:09 am to
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That's true, but it's also a critical weakness of modern conservatism. Stop looking to attack what your enemies are doing and start doing your own stuff. IOW, quit being so reactive. It's a bad strategy.
I don't disagree but I will say this, I think those in the political spectrum think they have to respond because if they don't, that also empowers the other side. It's a double edged sword. Like I said and others before me, this argument will continue until it is no longer lucrative to the puppet masters. Plain and simple.
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