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re: New ESPN article about Feds filing motion to bar CWW from testifying
Posted on 4/7/19 at 3:40 pm to prplngldtigr
Posted on 4/7/19 at 3:40 pm to prplngldtigr
Please point to me where Emmert has said the FBI is sharing evidence with the NCAA...
Other than what evidence that was admitted at trial.
Again, if the FBI is sharing evidence, why did the NCAA file a motion with the first Dawkins court asking for access to inadmissible evidence?
Other than what evidence that was admitted at trial.
Again, if the FBI is sharing evidence, why did the NCAA file a motion with the first Dawkins court asking for access to inadmissible evidence?
This post was edited on 4/7/19 at 3:42 pm
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Posted on 4/7/19 at 3:45 pm to ellessuuuu
What file dump do you think he’s making referrence ?
The file dump at the ncaa office.
From the ...fbi.
What is he talking about there?
I’m sure it’a nothing and what Emmert is talking about with regard to “file dump at the ncaa offices is likely not in any way any kind of agreement with the fbi. He’s just a renegade making off the cuff remarks.
Right?
The file dump at the ncaa office.
From the ...fbi.
What is he talking about there?
I’m sure it’a nothing and what Emmert is talking about with regard to “file dump at the ncaa offices is likely not in any way any kind of agreement with the fbi. He’s just a renegade making off the cuff remarks.
Right?
Posted on 4/7/19 at 3:49 pm to prplngldtigr
Dude, read it in context, he said the FBI HASN'T dumped all their files. From that you are drawing that the FBI has committed to handing its entire investigation file to the NCAA? That is a huge stretch.
Again, if that is what is going to happen, why did the NCAA file a motion with the court - 3 months after Emmert made that statement - asking it for access to FBI documents/evidence that was inadmissible at trial.
LINK
Put these two in context and it's clear Emmert was being sarcastic and does not anticipate the FBI to dump its files in the NCAA office.
Again, if that is what is going to happen, why did the NCAA file a motion with the court - 3 months after Emmert made that statement - asking it for access to FBI documents/evidence that was inadmissible at trial.
LINK
Put these two in context and it's clear Emmert was being sarcastic and does not anticipate the FBI to dump its files in the NCAA office.
Posted on 4/7/19 at 3:52 pm to Hurricane Mike
quote:Go ahead and tell us what this “some” is? Is it season tickets? Parking passes? Perhaps it’s comittments to speak at his AAU teams’ functions?
To have more, you first must have some
Posted on 4/7/19 at 4:01 pm to ellessuuuu
That’s an interesting article. I hadn’t read that til just now.
I’ll disagree with you on Emmert being “sarcastic”.
To make a comment like that implies and agreement had been made, albeit perhaps informal.
If said agreement was then not honored, for whatever reason ; the next steps would be to do what the ncaa is doing in the article you linked.
But a few in this thread act like the mere suggestion of the ncaa having at least some of the fbi evidence is completely absurd. It’s not now and wasn’t when Emmert made those comments.
But again, thanks for that article.
And for the record, I’m a WW fan.
I want the dude here and I want this to go away.
I’ll disagree with you on Emmert being “sarcastic”.
To make a comment like that implies and agreement had been made, albeit perhaps informal.
If said agreement was then not honored, for whatever reason ; the next steps would be to do what the ncaa is doing in the article you linked.
But a few in this thread act like the mere suggestion of the ncaa having at least some of the fbi evidence is completely absurd. It’s not now and wasn’t when Emmert made those comments.
But again, thanks for that article.
And for the record, I’m a WW fan.
I want the dude here and I want this to go away.
Posted on 4/7/19 at 4:09 pm to ForeverLSU5
I don’t read this as positively as some of y’all but frick Alleva and Alexander anyway.
Posted on 4/7/19 at 4:26 pm to prplngldtigr
Yep. There's always more to the story and none of us know for sure.
Also, it would likely be illegal for the FBI to hand over everything, such as grand jury testimony. Some things can be given under FOIA request, but certainly not everything and I doubt wiretaps of third parties will be released.
Also, it would likely be illegal for the FBI to hand over everything, such as grand jury testimony. Some things can be given under FOIA request, but certainly not everything and I doubt wiretaps of third parties will be released.
Posted on 4/7/19 at 6:13 pm to ellessuuuu
I think that (from reading earlier articles and please don’t ask me to dig looking for them)
it was more a case of the FBI not wanting the NCAA to get in the way of their investigation.
They didn’t want the NCAA to insert themselves into the process, because the issue of the NCAA rules being broken had nothing to do with their investigation of wire fraud, and other criminal actions.
From what I read it was “get out of our way until we’re finished”, which could be interpreted by some, including journalists, as “we’ll give you information when we’re done”.
I don’t know how long the FBI investigation is going to continue - it might be months and months before they’re done. In the meantime I think the NCAA is getting antsy about being not able to have evidence that supports rule breaking.
it was more a case of the FBI not wanting the NCAA to get in the way of their investigation.
They didn’t want the NCAA to insert themselves into the process, because the issue of the NCAA rules being broken had nothing to do with their investigation of wire fraud, and other criminal actions.
From what I read it was “get out of our way until we’re finished”, which could be interpreted by some, including journalists, as “we’ll give you information when we’re done”.
I don’t know how long the FBI investigation is going to continue - it might be months and months before they’re done. In the meantime I think the NCAA is getting antsy about being not able to have evidence that supports rule breaking.
Posted on 4/7/19 at 7:12 pm to ninthward
quote:
The NCAA is not law enforcement, this is sharing info w the private sector that is not working together as agencies work together.
Mark Emmert has already announced that the NCAA and the FBI are working together. What definition of "working together" could possibly exclude sharing information. The FBI is clearly interested in this "cesspool." I think those who are denying (hoping) that the FBI is not sharing information with the FBI are delusional. BTW....What information does the FBI have that you don't want the NCAA to have?
Posted on 4/7/19 at 7:24 pm to Irish LSU Fan
Please point me to the legal authority that allows the FBI to share wiretap recordings of third parties, grand jury testimony and other items gathered during an investigation but not used at any trial or public proceeding...
I'll hang up and listen.
Glad Irish is here to chime in, you always seem to be "Johnny on the spot". You don't have facts, of course, but that doesn't stop you.
No, the FBI does not just share information with private parties. Will the NCAA submit a FOIA request and try to get documents, sure, but not sure how much they will get, especially when it comes to wiretap recordings and grand jury testimony.
Buy hey, if you want to take Emmert's comments as meaning the DOJ is going to hand over files, knock yourself out.
Point me to the Emmert quote where he says the FBI is going to hand over evidence to the NCAA.
ETA. yeah I wouldn't call payments to athletes who are generating millions for others a cesspool. But hey, whatever furthers your narrative.
I'll hang up and listen.
Glad Irish is here to chime in, you always seem to be "Johnny on the spot". You don't have facts, of course, but that doesn't stop you.
No, the FBI does not just share information with private parties. Will the NCAA submit a FOIA request and try to get documents, sure, but not sure how much they will get, especially when it comes to wiretap recordings and grand jury testimony.
Buy hey, if you want to take Emmert's comments as meaning the DOJ is going to hand over files, knock yourself out.
Point me to the Emmert quote where he says the FBI is going to hand over evidence to the NCAA.
ETA. yeah I wouldn't call payments to athletes who are generating millions for others a cesspool. But hey, whatever furthers your narrative.
This post was edited on 4/7/19 at 7:28 pm
Posted on 4/7/19 at 9:16 pm to Bestbank Tiger
quote:
What's really disturbing is those jackbooted fascists want to prevent the defendants from introducing exculpatory evidence.
The issue is that their "good" deeds are irrelevant to the case
Posted on 4/7/19 at 9:19 pm to LSUGrrrl
quote:
Interesting. So that’s what on the tapes?
according to the feds, nothing of importance
Posted on 4/7/19 at 9:30 pm to ellessuuuu
quote:
Please point me to the legal authority that allows the FBI to share wiretap recordings of third parties, grand jury testimony and other items gathered during an investigation but not used at any trial or public proceeding
How hard do you think (if they have not already) it is to "find" a judge that will allow this information to be shared? I would not "bet the farm" they have not already found a judge that will allow this.
quote:
You don't have facts, of course, but that doesn't stop you.
All I have is Mark Emmert's statement that the NCAA is "working with the FBI." What do you have that they are not "working together?" And BTW, What else could "working together" actually mean?
quote:
ETA. yeah I wouldn't call payments to athletes who are generating millions for others a cesspool. But hey, whatever furthers your narrative.
That's what I thought you would say. You are one of those WW apologists who think cheating is OK. Winning by cheating is not winning.
Posted on 4/7/19 at 9:36 pm to UnluckyTiger
quote:
Alleva will be the sacrificial lamb in all of this. He gone.
Would still feel like a miracle to me. I sure hope so.
Posted on 4/7/19 at 9:38 pm to Irish LSU Fan
If you're looking for the moral high ground in cutting kids out of the millions they generate, good luck with that one.
Working together usually means cooperating. You're the one who's jumped to the ideas that the FBI is going to data dump all of its evidence.
Again you've based your entire theory on your interpretation of comments. An interpretation that is contrary to Emmert's own actions in filing a motion to get access to evidence. Not to mention your theory is contrary to existing federal law.
Working together usually means cooperating. You're the one who's jumped to the ideas that the FBI is going to data dump all of its evidence.
Again you've based your entire theory on your interpretation of comments. An interpretation that is contrary to Emmert's own actions in filing a motion to get access to evidence. Not to mention your theory is contrary to existing federal law.
This post was edited on 4/7/19 at 9:45 pm
Posted on 4/7/19 at 9:43 pm to ellessuuuu
quote:
If you're looking for the moral high ground in cutting kids out of the millions they generate, good luck with that one.
So, if you work for Microsoft in R&D, and you develop a new ??? that make millions for the company, you think that employee should get a cut of the profits?
No, the moral high ground is that we demonstrate to our families, our kids, our neighbors, our students, etc. that cheating is morally wrong. Play by the rules or play another game.
Posted on 4/7/19 at 9:45 pm to Irish LSU Fan
So WTF are we getting WW back. Does this administration understand that the dead period is coming quick. Do they want to frick us again next year. I mean frick.
Posted on 4/7/19 at 9:45 pm to Irish LSU Fan
If you’d work for a company like that and develop something new you hold on to it and let people bid on it. You don’t just give it away, so no as usual you’re wrong.
Posted on 4/7/19 at 9:45 pm to Irish LSU Fan
They're not employees...
You really are a mental midget, aren't you?
Take your crayon and go color in the corner while the adults talk.
You really are a mental midget, aren't you?
Take your crayon and go color in the corner while the adults talk.
This post was edited on 4/7/19 at 9:47 pm
Posted on 4/7/19 at 10:03 pm to Philippines4LSU
quote:Way past time!
Time for Joe to resign in shame
Joe Snow Peas Aramarkalleva..... gtfo of BR and take FKA with you.
You're not wanted here by the overwhelming consensus of LSU Alums/Fans.
Only the DAGRCD Pump Lump Cheerleader MA's want you here.
DAGRCD = Dumb As Georgia Red Clay Dirt
MA = Mediocrity Acceptor
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