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re: If Dawkins pleas, Alleva is in God's little acre....

Posted on 3/31/19 at 11:28 am to
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
39983 posts
Posted on 3/31/19 at 11:28 am to
Jesus Christ dude.

If there's a plea deal, there is then a 0% chance that Wade testifies under oath regarding his relationship with Dawkins and his general recruiting practices. There was always a good chance he wasn't going to get on the stand and that the "tapes" weren't going to be admitted, but if he pleas out then that's a done deal. If the tapes aren't public record and he doesn't have to testify, nothing more comes out of it besides what we have now which is brief snippets leaked to the media of him maybe talking about paying a player that can be explained away if you aren't an idiot. Make them prove you committed some kind of wrongdoing.
Posted by shiftworker
LP
Member since Dec 2011
5104 posts
Posted on 3/31/19 at 11:30 am to
You seem to have some working knowledge of legal proceedings. Can I ask your profession?



Oh and the way you bitch slapped Lester Earl was especially satisfying.
Posted by Anaximander
3524 Third St New Orleans, LA
Member since Jun 2018
3412 posts
Posted on 3/31/19 at 11:31 am to
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The only link Wade has to the case the is relative to his dealings with LSU is his "inability" to talk. He will still have to explain himself. Dawkins taking a plea means zero




I know dropping out in 8th grade when you started selling your body to old men has taken its toll on your brain but you need to really try and think.

If Wade does not have to testify under oath, do you really think it has nothing to do with the rest of the issue? Are you really that infinitely stupid?

And, again, what did Joe Alleva have for dinner last night?
This post was edited on 3/31/19 at 11:33 am
Posted by Imber
Member since Sep 2017
12998 posts
Posted on 3/31/19 at 11:33 am to
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and be the weakest AD in the NCAA after being shown up by his BB coach.


Too late
Posted by Tigerinasia
Natchitoches
Member since Jan 2008
1706 posts
Posted on 3/31/19 at 11:39 am to
Joe, we already know your hopes and dreams.
Posted by bengalfan50
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2009
2468 posts
Posted on 3/31/19 at 11:46 am to
You heard the tape and investigated the tape and there were no impermissible benefits.
They have cleared the player so there was no offense.
If there was no offense then how do you suspend a coach for no offense no matter what is on the tape.
Posted by GeauxGutsy
Member since Jul 2017
4736 posts
Posted on 3/31/19 at 11:47 am to
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Why he is being allowed to burn down the athletic department during the remainder of his lame duck tenure speaks to the ineptitude of FKA and the disdain for LSU held by JBE and JW.


All of this


Posted by GCTiger11
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Jan 2012
45156 posts
Posted on 3/31/19 at 11:59 am to
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madddoggydawg

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Lester Earl

It’s been pretty entertaining watching these two go from probably just genuinely playing devil’s advocate in the beginning to going all out on being contrarian and argumentive pricks.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 3/31/19 at 12:07 pm to
Two men go to rob a bank, one goes in with a gun while the other waits in the car with the engine running. The man in the bank pulls out his gun and says, "Get on the floor, this is a hold up!" He is quickly overwhelmed. What does the man in the car do? He drives off like nothing happened.

Now you want to say that the man with the gun never actually stole anything, and you want to parse his words in such a way as to deny that there was ever any intent to rob the bank in the first place. You further claim that everyone else is stealing money, why can't he?

Meanwhile the getaway driver gets to claim plausible deniability, and you want to blame him for the whole thing going wrong because he didn't go into the bank with guns blazing to help his partner out.

Good luck with all that.

Posted by Anaximander
3524 Third St New Orleans, LA
Member since Jun 2018
3412 posts
Posted on 3/31/19 at 12:09 pm to
quote:

Two men go to rob a bank, one goes in with a gun while the other waits in the car with the engine running. The man in the bank pulls out his gun and says, "Get on the floor, this is a hold up!" He is quickly overwhelmed. What does the man in the car do? He drives off like nothing happened.

Now you want to say that the man with the gun never actually stole anything, and you want to parse his words in such a way as to deny that there was ever any intent to rob the bank in the first place. You further claim that everyone else is stealing money, why can't he?

Meanwhile the getaway driver gets to claim plausible deniability, and you want to blame him for the whole thing going wrong because he didn't go into the bank with guns blazing to help his partner out.

Good luck with all that.



Horrible example. This would be more like the man who went in with gun talking to someone who had no connection with the robbery and with no details being recorded and only having a written transcript of part of that recording.
This post was edited on 3/31/19 at 12:10 pm
Posted by Jay Quest
Once removed from Massachusetts
Member since Nov 2009
9809 posts
Posted on 3/31/19 at 12:14 pm to
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The only link Wade has to the case the is relative to his dealings with LSU is his "inability" to talk. He will still have to explain himself.

Explain what exactly?

Why he refused to meet with LSU officials? He was subpoenaed to provide sworn testimony in a criminal proceeding. Only a fool would talk about such testimony with anyone prior. Even the tools at LSU would understand Wade's predicament.

quote:

Dawkins taking a plea means zero

It has very substantial meaning.
Posted by Anaximander
3524 Third St New Orleans, LA
Member since Jun 2018
3412 posts
Posted on 3/31/19 at 12:15 pm to
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Why he refused to meet with LSU officials? He was subpoenaed to provide sworn testimony in a criminal proceeding. Only a fool would talk about such testimony with anyone prior. Even the tools at LSU would understand Wade's predicament.


And, again, contact language is often ignored in court when there is mitigating circumstance. It is not written in stone and always enforceable.
Posted by Jack Crevalle
USVI
Member since Aug 2018
6719 posts
Posted on 3/31/19 at 12:22 pm to
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And, again, contact language is often ignored in court when there is mitigating circumstance. It is not written in stone and always enforceable.

And interpretation is often more favorable for employee than employer.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81732 posts
Posted on 3/31/19 at 12:23 pm to
Your take makes no sense. Do you really believe Alleva wants to damage the program he oversees? Do you think he wants to get rid of his best hire? How does any of this make sense to you?
Posted by Anaximander
3524 Third St New Orleans, LA
Member since Jun 2018
3412 posts
Posted on 3/31/19 at 12:28 pm to
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Your take makes no sense. Do you really believe Alleva wants to damage the program he oversees? Do you think he wants to get rid of his best hire? How does any of this make sense to you?



I think he is arrogant and impulsive despite how much it hurts the program. That was PROVEN at Duke.
Posted by madddoggydawg
Metairie
Member since Jun 2013
6567 posts
Posted on 3/31/19 at 12:53 pm to
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It just eats away at you knowing that it's only a confession in your delusional imagination
You posted this yesterday:
quote:

The "people" saying that are paid trolls hired by Alleva to promote a false narrative to try to convince the fanbase that we should be okay with Joe firing Wade.
And you want to talk delusional.
Posted by ExpoTiger
Member since Jul 2014
6505 posts
Posted on 3/31/19 at 12:58 pm to
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What if the FBI hands over everything to the NCAA?


They aren’t handing over evidence of what is most likely an ongoing investigation to the bunch of half retarded people at the ncaa

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What if the FBI hands over nothing and judicial watch files FOIA?


I’m not even sure if that evidence is subject to FOIA. Unlikely and most likely doesn’t fit into the timeframe for this to be resolved between LSU and WW.

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What if bama offers Wade a deal he can't refuse?


I didn’t read any further than ur post so I assume someone here has informed you it won’t happen because they hired a coach a few days ago

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what if UCLA offers Wade a deal he can't refuse?


Dude, UCLA isn’t hiring WW. I don’t believe Wade will be unable to find a coaching job if LSU fires him but let’s be reasonable. One of the most legendary basketball programs of all time isn’t hiring him fresh off all of this much less making him an offer he can’t refuse. Teams would be coming after him if this whole fiasco hadn’t happened. Someone will hire him. It won’t be UCLA. Havent they already targeted someone anyway?
This post was edited on 3/31/19 at 1:26 pm
Posted by Anaximander
3524 Third St New Orleans, LA
Member since Jun 2018
3412 posts
Posted on 3/31/19 at 1:39 pm to
quote:

quote:
The "people" saying that are paid trolls hired by Alleva to promote a false narrative to try to convince the fanbase that we should be okay with Joe firing Wade.
And you want to talk delusional.



I would agree on the paid part. But there are a lot of felching sycophants that just want to take a position to put Alleva in a positive light. That they are doing it on their own is even more bizarre.
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 3/31/19 at 1:45 pm to
“ he will still have to explain himself”

If LSU, by itself, had something Coach Wade couldn’t possibly explain away, he would already be fired.

He isn’t and therefore, they don’t.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
79881 posts
Posted on 3/31/19 at 2:07 pm to
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madddoggydawg


How pathetically poor do you have to be to take a job that pays x cents per post?
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