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Posted on 3/14/19 at 1:23 pm to J2thaROC
Reading through some of this thread, it appears a lot of people have a misunderstanding of how this went down.
CWW did not refuse to meet with the Admins.! They refused to meet with him!
Will Wade (I am guessing here) doesn't want to go to jail. Even if he did nothing wrong, he can go to jail if he says something it isn't suppose to divulge. He NEEDS his lawyer for that. Lawyer not allowed! So no meeting.
This part of the conversation is on the admin.! Not CWW!
CWW did not refuse to meet with the Admins.! They refused to meet with him!
Will Wade (I am guessing here) doesn't want to go to jail. Even if he did nothing wrong, he can go to jail if he says something it isn't suppose to divulge. He NEEDS his lawyer for that. Lawyer not allowed! So no meeting.
This part of the conversation is on the admin.! Not CWW!
Posted on 3/14/19 at 1:27 pm to omegaman66
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CWW did not refuse to meet with the Admins.! They refused to meet with him!
This is correct.
The AD has planted several trolls on this board to lie and skew the narrative.
Let that sink in. Alleva lied, LSU basketball died.
Rather than fix it he had his minions create anonymous TigerDroppings accounts and start lying to advance the anti-Wade narrative.
Posted on 3/14/19 at 1:27 pm to lsupride87
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I didnt
I am loling at shel trying to compare his job to this
You specifically asked if shel invited OSHA etc to those meetings. tbh I haven't read the other comment, I'm just saying that it's not an apples to apples comparison. The NCAA has far more authority and control over it's member institutions than government regulators have over businesses. That's just a fact. The NCAA is a corrupt arse piece of shite and I don't think for a fricking second they wouldn't use even the slightest pretext to tear our program apart with investigations if this isn't handled with care.
Do I sympathize with Wade? Hell yeah. He seems like a genuinely good dude and not for one fricking second do I believe that he's the biggest fish in this frying pan. Hell it took down Pitino already. But if the NCAA wants to "make an example out of us" then our administration needs to do absolutely everything they can to avoid getting a death sentence. Given the aforementioned corruption of the NCAA, I don't think perceived concern over the matter can be understated.
Posted on 3/14/19 at 1:30 pm to omegaman66
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Reading through some of this thread, it appears a lot of people have a misunderstanding of how this went down.
CWW did not refuse to meet with the Admins.! They refused to meet with him!
Will Wade (I am guessing here) doesn't want to go to jail. Even if he did nothing wrong, he can go to jail if he says something it isn't suppose to divulge. He NEEDS his lawyer for that. Lawyer not allowed! So no meeting.
This part of the conversation is on the admin.! Not CWW!
They're still waiting on a meeting with him and his lawyer. Having his lawyer wasn't an issue. His lawyer wanted to limit the scope of questioning/have questions beforehand and the university said no. His lawyer also didn't want the NCAA there and for whatever reason they were going to be there with the University's permission. Whether the NCAA asked to be there or was invited doesn't seem to be to clear right now. Just to clarify your incorrect clarification.
Posted on 3/14/19 at 1:32 pm to Godfather1
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And there it is.
They’re looking to fire him for cause.
Or the NCAA has insisted that they should be in that interview and LSU isn't going to pushback on that because they don't know what Wade did or didn't do and there's a tape of him likely violating NCAA rules already. Wade and the University are both up shite creek without a paddle.
Posted on 3/14/19 at 1:34 pm to strose
LSU administration is full of a bunch of morons.
Posted on 3/14/19 at 1:34 pm to MrWiseGuy
This is bullshite. Until some competent authority formally accuses him of wrongdoing, he doesn't, and shouldn't, have to deny anything. And LSU knows it.
This post was edited on 3/14/19 at 1:35 pm
Posted on 3/14/19 at 1:34 pm to J2thaROC
quote:my god you people are dumb.
How? He doesn’t have to prove his innocence.
Wade doesn't have to prove his innocence IN A COURTROOM.
But outside of that, if a damning tape is out there with him offering to buy players, he absolutely does need to explain his actions to his employer.
Hypothetical: you work in the accounting dept of a company. A lot of money has gone missing, and there's some legitimate evidence that you embezzled it. You haven't been charged with any crime yet, but your boss calls you in to discuss.
You damn well better be able to explain or show that you didn't do it. Otherwise, you're getting suspected or fired.
And this is entirely rational and is how things work in the real world. But you're right - but only in a courtroom, where you don't have to say a word.
Posted on 3/14/19 at 1:35 pm to strose
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You specifically asked if shel invited OSHA etc to those meetings. tbh I haven't read the other comment, I'm just saying that it's not an apples to apples comparison. The NCAA has far more authority and control over it's member institutions than government regulators have over businesses. That's just a fact. The NCAA is a corrupt arse piece of shite and I don't think for a fricking second they wouldn't use even the slightest pretext to tear our program apart with investigations if this isn't handled with care.
Except for one thing: The NCAA stated that no action will be taken by them until the investigation and trial are concluded.
Yet here they are, boots on the ground on LSU's campus, helping to dictate LSU's actions on the matter.
Also, shel was definitely using his argument as an "apples to apples comparison", or else he would have initially acknowledged that his experience is different than what he was definitively commenting on.
Posted on 3/14/19 at 1:36 pm to atltiger6487
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Hypothetical: you work in the accounting dept of a company. A lot of money has gone missing, and there's some legitimate evidence that you embezzled it. You haven't been charged with any crime yet, but your boss calls you in to discuss.
You damn well better be able to explain or show that you didn't do it. Otherwise, you're getting suspected or fired.
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Wade doesn't have to prove his innocence IN A COURTROOM.
You just used an example that absolutely would need a courtroom.
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my god you are dumb.
Posted on 3/14/19 at 1:38 pm to MrWiseGuy
Can we just retitle this thread as "Alleva's lies regarding the Wade firing?"
And don't give me that BS of he hasn't been fired yet.
And don't give me that BS of he hasn't been fired yet.
Posted on 3/14/19 at 1:38 pm to MrWiseGuy
We have very weak leadership who don't understand basic leadership principles beyond "the law of the lid", and the lid on their leadership is very low.
Posted on 3/14/19 at 1:39 pm to strose
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Or the NCAA has insisted that they should be in that interview
Then the administration responds thru their attorneys by telling the NCAA that until such time as the NCAA chooses to begin an investigation, LSU will handle it internally. Once the NCAA launches their investigation, LSU will cooperate fully.
Posted on 3/14/19 at 1:40 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Yep. I don't know why some people are having such a hard time accepting it.
And both parties should have released one statement and shut up no matter what is going on behind closed doors, and no matter what the media says. It would have died down by now.
Posted on 3/14/19 at 1:46 pm to LNCHBOX
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You just used an example that absolutely would need a courtroom.
Only if that person were going to jail, they don't need definitive proof to fire you. That's the point.
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my god you are dumb.
Posted on 3/14/19 at 1:47 pm to atltiger6487
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But outside of that, if a damning tape is out there with him offering to buy players,
He is NOT on tape offering any player money.
He has denied any involvement with the middleman.
Posted on 3/14/19 at 1:48 pm to Godfather1
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Then the administration responds thru their attorneys by telling the NCAA that until such time as the NCAA chooses to begin an investigation, LSU will handle it internally. Once the NCAA launches their investigation, LSU will cooperate fully.
I'd be okay with that, tbh. It would cover LSU's asses and force the NCAA to either start investigating now or give us the green light to have our coach back until such time as an investigation starts or after the trial, or at least Wade's involvement in it, have completed.
Posted on 3/14/19 at 1:50 pm to J2thaROC
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He is NOT on tape offering any player money.
He has denied any involvement with the middleman.
Any offer of any sort of extra benefits, regardless of whether it's monetary or not, is illegal. He's on tape talking to a middle man that he claimed he had no relationship with. I don't know why we'd believe him on this one.
Posted on 3/14/19 at 1:51 pm to strose
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He's on tape talking to a middle man that he claimed he had no relationship with
Pretty sure you're not getting the wording right with this one.
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