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Posted on 3/14/19 at 2:09 pm to deathvalleytiger10
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The quote I have seen from Will Wade is he "denied doing business of any kind" with Dawkins.
What business did he do with Dawkins that has come out?
He had conversations from what I have seen, but they did not engage in business.(which I take as a transaction involving money or something of value)
You don't think based on the recording we've heard that you're stretching the definition of "not doing business" together a bit to hide? At the very least he discussed doing business with the guy. Given the fact that they were mulling over offers to different recruits I'd say that it takes a lot of faith to believe they've never done business together. The NCAA doesn't have that kind of faith and LSU knows it.
Posted on 3/14/19 at 2:11 pm to deathvalleytiger10
quote:
The quote I have seen from Will Wade is he "denied doing business of any kind" with Dawkins.
What business did he do with Dawkins that has come out?
He had conversations from what I have seen, but they did not engage in business.(which I take as a transaction involving money or something of value)
Why hasn't he said this about this leak?
Look, keep taking things at face value and continue to be upset when the full truth comes out.
Posted on 3/14/19 at 2:15 pm to strose
With the caveat that I am not a fan of the NCAA or Joe Alleva, this entire process is a charade meant to protect LSU and Will Wade. Given the comments made by Wade on the wire tap, LSU had no choice but to suspend Wade. The failure to meet with LSU administration officials is simply a ruse for the suspension. Any information that LSU were to obtain from Wade would have to be turned over to the NCAA. Wade knows that and LSU knows that. LSU and Wade are both right in handling it this way.
Posted on 3/14/19 at 2:18 pm to MrWiseGuy
This is absolute bullshite. frick JOE ALLEVA! What will it take to get this cocksucker fired?
Posted on 3/14/19 at 2:19 pm to NBD
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Given the comments made by Wade on the wire tap, LSU had no choice but to suspend Wade
What did you hear on the tapes that warranted a suspension?
Posted on 3/14/19 at 2:19 pm to whoisnickdoobs
Don't ever think that the firing of Alleva is not already in the works.
Posted on 3/14/19 at 2:20 pm to NBD
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With the caveat that I am not a fan of the NCAA or Joe Alleva, this entire process is a charade meant to protect LSU and Will Wade. Given the comments made by Wade on the wire tap, LSU had no choice but to suspend Wade. The failure to meet with LSU administration officials is simply a ruse for the suspension. Any information that LSU were to obtain from Wade would have to be turned over to the NCAA. Wade knows that and LSU knows that. LSU and Wade are both right in handling it this way.
I've thought a long these lines as well. Like something tells me the 2 sides can not be this dumb right? I have thought that LSU and Wade may be using the media to save his future at LSU.
They may have both agreed that stepping away for the rest of the year may save his future at LSU.
Posted on 3/14/19 at 2:26 pm to NBD
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Don't ever think that the firing of Alleva is not already in the works.
I hope you're right. That's the one good thing I can see coming out of this situation.
Posted on 3/14/19 at 2:27 pm to Goldrush25
Wade is heard on the FBI wire tap stating that LSU had made an offer to a player and then suggesting that the player's verbal commitment had been delayed because a third party had not big "enough piece of the pie in the deal". I know if no recruiting practice that is in compliance with NCAA recruiting guidelines that permits a third party to receive ANYTHING in an offer to a recruit.
Posted on 3/14/19 at 2:36 pm to NBD
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Wade is heard on the FBI wire tap stating that LSU had made an offer to a player and then suggesting that the player's verbal commitment had been delayed because a third party had not big "enough piece of the pie in the deal". I know if no recruiting practice that is in compliance with NCAA recruiting guidelines that permits a third party to receive ANYTHING in an offer to a recruit.
Just in case anyone in the back didn't hear.
Posted on 3/14/19 at 2:37 pm to Lester Earl
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Why hasn't he said this about this leak?
Look, keep taking things at face value and continue to be upset when the full truth comes out.
Your response has nothing to do with what I was addressing. You have continued to say Wade lied to LSU. You have yet to put forth anything to back that other than assumptions.
On top of that, I have a hard time believing LSU thinks he lied to them, otherwise they could have easily fired him with cause by now.
Posted on 3/14/19 at 2:43 pm to deathvalleytiger10
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but they did not engage in business.
quote:
“So you said to me in Atlanta there was a 2019 kid I wanted to recruit, they can get him to LSU, you would have funded,” Dawkins told Wade on the call — according to Donnelly’s transcript. “Would you want Balsa?” “Oh, the big kid?” Wade asked. “Yeah,” Dawkins said. “OK. But there’s other [expletive] involved in it,” Wade replied. “I have got to shut my door. … Here’s my thing: I can get you what you need, but it’s got to work.”
Get him to LSU, would have funded, I can get you what you need, but it's got to work.
They're discussing business.
Posted on 3/14/19 at 2:44 pm to Lester Earl
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continue to be upset when the full truth comes out.
And I won't be surprised at all if he is found bag in hand and guilty. Will be disappointed for him and the program I love. But let's face it, it doesn't look good.
But, I believe we as a society have taken the guilty till proven innocent side of things and I don't like it.
So, my entire beef with this process revolves around how it was handled.
LSU's handling of this once a MEDIA report was released.
The constant talk in the media by LSU against Wade vs keeping it in house.
And, Wade releasing that statement today.
You feel LSU has put on a textbook clinic in PR management of this scandal as you have defended their every turn.
Posted on 3/14/19 at 2:45 pm to shel311
LSU must not have thought they did business as they talked to him about this last year when that report came out.
This post was edited on 3/14/19 at 2:47 pm
Posted on 3/14/19 at 2:47 pm to deathvalleytiger10
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But, I believe we as a society have taken the guilty till proven innocent side of things and I don't like it.
This isn't a courtroom though. LSU is a public university and is answerable to the most fickle and corrupt organization on the planet (apologies to FIFA). There's a vested interest in showing that the university did not just the legal thing, but the ethical thing.
I will say that I do agree that I am not a fan of the administration to begin with so I won't be sorry if this does end with them seeing the wrong side of a door slamming in their collective face.
This post was edited on 3/14/19 at 2:48 pm
Posted on 3/14/19 at 3:00 pm to MrWiseGuy
ALL TAF donations have been canceled. Embarrassed to be associated with this school at this point.
Posted on 3/14/19 at 3:01 pm to MrWiseGuy
I said after the original statement from wade that he never denied anything thus signaling his guilt
He’s done, they’re gonna fire him
He’s done, they’re gonna fire him
This post was edited on 3/14/19 at 4:43 pm
Posted on 3/14/19 at 3:06 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:once again, you completely missed my point.
You just used an example that absolutely would need a courtroom.
You don't need a courtroom for an employer to suspend or fire an employee who seems to be engaged in bad behavior.
Posted on 3/14/19 at 3:06 pm to Marrero Tigah
quote:"....and his folks". Aren't "his folks" the admins at Louisiana State University? Dellenger seems to be indicting anybody who supports Wade. Guilt by association. Is Dellenger really implying that WW should admit wrongdoing in an ongoing investigation? Haven't we learned anything from the Kavanaugh hearings? Guilty until proven guilty? Is Dellenger distancing himself from Wade? Aren't they still officially on the same side? A lot of juvenile tendencies here for sure.
Ross Dellenger is the mouthpiece for the LSU administration. He’s a disgrace to journalism.
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