re: The Case Against Adnan Syed - HBO-

Ah ok I thought I heard she was 16.

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but those recordings from Adnan were creepy. Completely unphased.

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Whether he did it or not it's been 15-20 years depending on if the recording is from Serial or HBO. Plenty of time to have emotions checked for a phone interview.

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Whether he did it or not it's been 15-20 years depending on if the recording is from Serial or HBO. Plenty of time to have emotions checked for a phone interview.

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I'll say this. If I'm sitting in jail for a crime I did not commit, I don't care whether it's 20 years later, my tone is adamance and anger. Righteous fricking indignance.

That was not Adnan Syed's tone. At all.

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Did they said it was his mom? If that is his only alibi then meh.

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Yes, it was his mom. I think they might have also had clock in and clock out records, but I forget.

But even if you question his alibi because it was his mom, what motive did he have? He'd just started getting good and balls deep inside Hae. Why off her?

I've followed the case pretty closely since Serial. I listened to a good bit of the undisclosed podcast. Granted, Rabia Chaudry is a biased source since Adnan is basically family to her, but it's hard to ignore a lot of her and the other lawyers' points. One thing I'm fairly certain of is that the murder didn't take place on the timeline the state presented at trial.

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Basically, there is 0% chance that Jay did this of his own volition. None. He had no motive, and he wouldn't have even known where Hae was. He couldn't have done it.

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That's where the other podcast comes into play. Now, I think it's a bit of a stretch, but there is enough there to make it seem plausible, at least to me. They basically insinuate that the cops were on to Jay as a suspect, brought him in for drugs or whatever other minor crimes he was committing, and started questioning him. There is evidence in the audio recordings of his interviews that he was being fed information (he would say the wrong thing, then stop, back up and say something else completely...listen to it if you haven't yet). They go on to say they believe the cops found Hae's car then brought Jay to it and had him brought back in to tell them where it was on the recordings. Again, far fetched, I know; but not completely unreasonable. I don't think Jay did it either, but I think he was threatened with significant jail time if he didn't agree to pin it on Adnan.

As for forensic evidence, there is actually some forensic evidence that Hae was burried much later than Jay suggested at trial. The autopsy report states there was full frontal lividity which means she was lying face down for at least 12 hours. You can read more about it here.

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And people split hairs looking at the inconsistincies in Jay's testimony, but it's minutiae. The big stuff he's consistent on.

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He's completely contradicted himself, and blown up the state's timeline in post trial interviews...

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Put that together with the obvious history of corruption in the Baltimore police department, and I just don't see how you can be certain Adnan did it. Especially if your only reasoning is "Adnan isn't angry."

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He's completely contradicted himself, and blown up the state's timeline in post trial interviews...

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I like how you link that interview while also ignoring that Jay says that Adnan is guilty.

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When Adnan loaned you his car on Jan. 13, 1999, did he tell you it was because he planned on murdering Hae?
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Then he calls me and says, ‘Come pick me up.’

So I go to pick him up, and when I get there he says, ‘Oh shite, I did it.’ I say, ‘Did what?’ He says, ‘I killed Hae.’

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Is this when you first saw Hae’s body in the trunk of her car?

No. I saw her body later, in front of of my grandmother’s house where I was living. I didn’t tell the cops it was in front of my house because I didn’t want to involve my grandmother. I believe I told them it was in front of ‘Cathy’s [not her real name] house, but it was in front of my grandmother’s house. I know it didn’t happen anywhere other than my grandmother’s house. I remember the highway traffic to my right, and I remember standing there on the curb. I remember Adnan standing next to me.

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I was asking earlier if they are releasing each part of this series weekly? I listened to the podcast long ago.