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re: Lack of Institutional Control
Posted on 3/10/19 at 12:05 pm to Godfather1
Posted on 3/10/19 at 12:05 pm to Godfather1
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For allegations that may never even come?
He's still the HC. LSU took precautionary measures because Wade wouldn't cooperate. If our own compliance department clears him, he's back.
The current investigation is by the LSU compliance department. I see it all as very normal operating procedures.
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Posted on 3/10/19 at 12:08 pm to Godfather1
Y’all have your heads in the sand. Of course you suspend the coach when that tape comes out. If nothing else, the university has to investigate, and it
Sounded bad enough to stop
The coach while that investigation happens.
LSU fans, man. I tell you.
Sounded bad enough to stop
The coach while that investigation happens.
LSU fans, man. I tell you.
Posted on 3/10/19 at 12:31 pm to RogerTheShrubber
I have a feeling the sheer amount of schools caught up in this to varying degrees will help LSU avoid huge sanctions like LOIC.
No one wants to hear it because they love Wade and hate Alleva. However, it's highly unlikely Wade survives this without a show cause of some degree.
The NCAA changed their rules to where just the quotes from the tape are likely already all the evidence they need to issue a show cause.
The best outcome for LSU is probably that the NCAA has no interest in 25 in-depth investigations into complete programs, unless those programs force their hand.
NCAA will prefer to just punish the actual coaches they have taped quotes on and then move to "cleaning up recruiting going forward".
This post was edited on 3/10/19 at 1:02 pm
Posted on 3/10/19 at 12:36 pm to Godfather1
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For allegations that may never even come?
For evidence that's come to light that reflects poorly on the university.
quote:
All you’re doing is making yourself LOOK guilty.
No, you're making yourself look in control of a potentially negative situation. Neither the FBI nor the NCAA have to find Wade guilty of anything for LSU to have cause to terminate his contract, all he has to do is reflect poorly on the university. Technically, that even goes for expelling students.
Get your head out of the sand, it looks bad right now. The AD took the right course of action, which has yet to have any negative impact on the team.
Posted on 3/10/19 at 12:37 pm to The First Cut
So, you've made the jump from there currently being no NCAA investigation of LSU's basketball program to LSU being slapped with "a lack of institutional control"??
Posted on 3/10/19 at 12:39 pm to The First Cut
I would assume one is beginning as we speak
Posted on 3/10/19 at 12:39 pm to wm72
LSU SHOULD GROW A PAIR LIKE NORTH CAROLINA....NC CAUGHT RED HANDED HAVING OTHER STUDENTS TAKE TESTS FOR ATHLETES, FUDGING GRADES ETC...THE YEAR THEY WON THE NCAA TITLE, SO WHAT DID THEY DO?? THEY TOLD NCAA COME ON DOWN...WE'LL BANKRUPT YOU IN COURT...DID THEIR COACH WHO HAS HAD PRIOR ISSUES GET SUSPENDED...Noooooo!!!...JOE ALLEVA IS ABOUT AS BAD OF AN AD AS I RECALL..HE SCREWED UP AT DUKE AND NEVER ADMITTED HIS BLUNDER, HIS BEST PAL IS COACH K, WHO HAS ALWAYS BEEN 1 STEP AHEAD OF NCAA...TIME TO SEND HIM BACK TO DUKE....WE NEED SOMEONE WITH BOLDNESS, NOT LICK YOUR FINGER AND STICK IT IN THE WIND....LSU KITTY CATS NOT TIGERS WITH HIM AT HELM...
This post was edited on 3/10/19 at 1:03 pm
Posted on 3/10/19 at 12:42 pm to The First Cut
LSU administrators may be charged with "Abundance of Ignorance and Lack of Spinal Control”
This post was edited on 3/10/19 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 3/10/19 at 12:56 pm to The First Cut
“ we tried to meet with the coach but he refused”
No meeting had to take place with a subpoena coach a few days before the final regular season game of the year. Waiting 10 days or so after the regular season had been completed, the SEC tournament had been completed, and national seatings had been announced would not have caused any terrible harm to LSU.
What went on Saturday night could have been totally avoided if the LSU administration had used a little common sense And not rushed in to make a problem even worse. Rushing to judgment. Seems I remember that happening before with someone in the LSU administration.
No meeting had to take place with a subpoena coach a few days before the final regular season game of the year. Waiting 10 days or so after the regular season had been completed, the SEC tournament had been completed, and national seatings had been announced would not have caused any terrible harm to LSU.
What went on Saturday night could have been totally avoided if the LSU administration had used a little common sense And not rushed in to make a problem even worse. Rushing to judgment. Seems I remember that happening before with someone in the LSU administration.
Posted on 3/10/19 at 1:11 pm to The First Cut
This is total bullshite. The ncaa is not going to help us and you don’t get hit with LOIC over not immediately firing your coach because dick head Vitale asks for it. You know they have to prove wrong doing right?
Posted on 3/10/19 at 1:25 pm to baybeefeetz
quote:
Y’all have your heads in the sand. Of course you suspend the coach when that tape comes out. If nothing else, the university has to investigate, and it Sounded bad enough to stop The coach while that investigation happens. LSU fans, man. I tell you.
They already knew that this info existed. It’s not new. Joe alleva acting like he needed will wade to come in to explain and then trying to look good to sankey is all bullshite. All of this is bullshite. This has not been about an investigation into will wade or LSU basketball. WW made a mistake and got caught up in something way bigger. Burn down college basketball. frick all this bullshite.
Posted on 3/10/19 at 1:30 pm to wm72
25 and maybe more!
Posted on 3/10/19 at 1:30 pm to The First Cut
Seriously dude stop. Alleva looks like more of a vagina doing it now. Lack of institutional control seems more dancing because Alleva is acting like he wasn’t prepared for this and never vetted Wade before
Posted on 3/10/19 at 1:37 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
quote:
No, you're making yourself look in control of a potentially negative situation.
Well, this is where we’re going to have to agree to disagree.
My stance is that you don’t do anything to bring anymore attention to the situation than is necessary. And in this case, doing nothing at all was just as easily warranted.
Posted on 3/10/19 at 1:38 pm to The First Cut
Let's see the evidence and go from there. I do blame Wade for being stupid and talking to a middleman when others should have been handling that duty! Unless they can prove money/gifts were exchanged, then a slap on the hand. If things can be proven, then it's anybody's guess. It's the NCAA we're dealing with!
Posted on 3/10/19 at 3:30 pm to ExpoTiger
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Burn down college basketball. frick all this bullshite.
This I agree with
Posted on 3/10/19 at 3:48 pm to Lonnie4LSU
quote:It did if the boss said it did. Wade made it clear that he reports to his attorneys and not to LSU at this time. LSU made it clear that that’s not acceptable. Good for LSU.
No meeting had to take place
Posted on 3/10/19 at 4:44 pm to xiv
You're comparing apples to oranges. The death penalty has been in football. The money maker. If they were to institute the death penalty I would think it would be in a sport other than football. And, it may not be that long a penalty. But it might send a message. There are a lot of dirty mf'ers out there. 
Posted on 3/10/19 at 5:23 pm to The First Cut
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You’re kidding yourself if you don’t think an NCAA investigation is coming after the FBI is done.
That’s the point. NCAA has not accused LSU of anything at this point. SMU received the death penalty because they got caught paying players while they were on probation for paying players.
Posted on 3/10/19 at 5:30 pm to The First Cut
Maybe, maybe not, but...
1) the ncaa has actually come down hard on universities that have been transparent.
2) if there is not a smoking gun, the NCAA isn’t going to anything.
3) if all they have is the tapes, there is no smoking gun.
4) if you are concerned about what MIGHT come out in trial, why not wait to see what happens.
We had nothing to gain by suspending Wade at the time and manner at which it was done. It was a knee jerk, panicking decision that was a monumental mistake for the university and program.
1) the ncaa has actually come down hard on universities that have been transparent.
2) if there is not a smoking gun, the NCAA isn’t going to anything.
3) if all they have is the tapes, there is no smoking gun.
4) if you are concerned about what MIGHT come out in trial, why not wait to see what happens.
We had nothing to gain by suspending Wade at the time and manner at which it was done. It was a knee jerk, panicking decision that was a monumental mistake for the university and program.
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