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Lindsey Graham: Democrats, GOP Can ‘Come Together’ for Gun Confiscation

Posted on 3/9/19 at 8:26 pm
Posted by Boatshoes
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Posted on 3/9/19 at 8:26 pm
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"Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Lindsey Graham (R-SC) says firearm confiscation laws portend a way that Democrats and Republicans can “come together.”
CNN reported that Graham has long supported red flag laws, which allow a court to issue firearm confiscation orders for individuals deemed a threat to themselves or others.

House Democrats have already passed legislation during this Congress to criminalize private gun sales and extend the instant background check for firearm purchases. They are now pressing for $50 million in annual funding to bring academia into the gun control push.

The Democrats have also been vocal in their support for gun confiscation laws, and this is where Graham believes the left and right can come together.

He told CNN, “I haven’t really looked at the House package, but this is to me the area where we can come together.” Graham has scheduled a March 26 Judiciary Committee hearing on the confiscation orders.

California, Illinois, and Florida all have gun confiscation orders via red flag laws. California’s law did nothing to prevent the November 7, 2018, Borderline Bar & Grill shooting in which 12 innocents were killed. The law in Illinois did not prevent the February 15, 2019, shooting at Henry Pratt Company, where five innocents were killed. And the Florida law did not stop the August 26, 2018, shooting at Jacksonville Landing or the January 23, 2019, shooting at SunTrust Bank in Sebring. A total of eight innocents were killed in the two Florida shootings.

CNBC noted that Graham’s willingness to “[hold] a hearing on gun control is … a remarkable development in the GOP-dominated Senate.”

...and some of you were ready to canonize the SOB.
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
39871 posts
Posted on 3/9/19 at 8:29 pm to
Speak for yourself Lindsey.
Posted by themunch
bottom of the list
Member since Jan 2007
70814 posts
Posted on 3/9/19 at 8:31 pm to
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Democrats, GOP Can ‘Come Together’ for Gun Confiscation


This is well known to most of us. The reason for Trump.
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
21057 posts
Posted on 3/9/19 at 8:32 pm to
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Gun Confiscation


Good luck. How would this even work?

A militant wing of the government comes and thoroughly searches every single home/office/vehicle/shed/garage in America?

No chance
This post was edited on 3/9/19 at 8:33 pm
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 3/9/19 at 8:33 pm to
Jesus.

They're worried about what Trump is going to release before midterms
Posted by Wtxtiger
Gonzales la
Member since Feb 2011
7273 posts
Posted on 3/9/19 at 8:34 pm to
We have to primary this dude and anyone like him. No giving an inch to anti second amendment legislation and shite can any republicans that even mention that they will vote for any law restricting ownership or regulations that limit any freedom we now possess
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
71692 posts
Posted on 3/9/19 at 8:34 pm to
Lindsay graham isn't wrong here.

As someone deeply against most gun control, I strongly support what some are calling the "gun violence restraining order"...or GVRO

A Gun-Control Measure Conservatives Should Consider
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What if, however, there was an evidence-based process for temporarily denying a troubled person access to guns? What if this process empowered family members and others close to a potential shooter, allowing them to “do something” after they “see something” and “say something”? I’ve written that the best line of defense against mass shootings is an empowered, vigilant citizenry. There is a method that has the potential to empower citizens even more, when it’s carefully and properly implemented.

It’s called a gun-violence restraining order, or GVRO.

While there are various versions of these laws working their way through the states (California passed a GVRO statute in 2014, and it went into effect in 2016), broadly speaking they permit a spouse, parent, sibling, or person living with a troubled individual to petition a court for an order enabling law enforcement to temporarily take that individual’s guns right away.

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It should limit those who have standing to seek the order to a narrowly defined class of people (close relatives, those living with the respondent);

It should require petitioners to come forward with clear, convincing, admissible evidence that the respondent is a significant danger to himself or others;

It should grant the respondent an opportunity to contest the claims against him;

In the event of an emergency, ex parte order (an order granted before the respondent can contest the claims), a full hearing should be scheduled quickly — preferably within 72 hours; and

The order should lapse after a defined period of time unless petitioners can come forward with clear and convincing evidence that it should remain in place.


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Advocates for GVROs have been mostly clustered on the left, but there is nothing inherently leftist about the concept. After all, the GVRO is consistent with and recognizes both the inherent right of self-defense and the inherent right of due process. It is not collective punishment. It is precisely targeted.


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The great benefit of the GVRO is that it provides citizens with options other than relying on, say, the FBI. As the bureau admitted today, it did not respond appropriately to a timely warning from a “person close to Nikolas Cruz.” According the FBI, that person provided “information about Cruz’s gun ownership, desire to kill people, erratic behavior, and disturbing social media posts, as well as the potential of him conducting a school shooting.”



Posted by esther
Member since Mar 2019
18 posts
Posted on 3/9/19 at 8:36 pm to
I've said it all along, I do not and have never trusted Lindsey Graham, he's a swamp rat. He is with McCain and the Isis Terrorists group in photos.

don't trust him
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 3/9/19 at 8:38 pm to
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Lindsay graham isn't wrong here.

It's as if some of these people read "Gun Confiscation" and then simply started typing. Didn't even read the post or article.



Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
39871 posts
Posted on 3/9/19 at 8:39 pm to
quote:

see something” and “say something

A country of snitches.
Posted by Clark14
Earth
Member since Dec 2014
24318 posts
Posted on 3/9/19 at 8:48 pm to
And the trump dudes loved him just last week,funny how that works.


I'm not giving up my guns.I hunt with them and have no harm in mind for anyone involving them.

Education and respect could go a long way these days.But it seems it's lost..

This post was edited on 3/9/19 at 9:24 pm
Posted by Sunbeam
Member since Dec 2016
2612 posts
Posted on 3/9/19 at 8:51 pm to
Okay, let me get this straight.

1) You want people who are living with someone who has a gun, but so "deeply disturbs" the first person, that they want to have the police come in and take said gun.

But they still want to live with this person.

2) Said person. Has just had his guns taken. He's deeply disturbed.

Hmmmm I wonder what happens?

3) Michelle goes to see her divorce attorney, Sam.

Sam: "Hmmmm, no kids. Tell me does he have a gun?"

Michelle: "Why yes, he does."

Sam: "Here's what you do..."

Later,

Sam: "Your honor, living with this man was a threat to my client's life. The police had to seize his gun, because he was dangerously disturbed.

My client wants the house, the dog, and half his salary per month as alimony. We also want a restraining order and a no-contact order imposed on him."
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
97218 posts
Posted on 3/9/19 at 8:52 pm to
Another good intention policy that will be abused rampantly in liberal controlled areas
Posted by Chocolate Jesus
Deep in the Heart of Texas
Member since Jan 2019
360 posts
Posted on 3/9/19 at 8:55 pm to
How it would work is that eventually things like Twitter, Facebook, and other social justice warrior media websites would start making a list of people that are potential threats based on their Republican lean.
If you show a picture of you hunting, you could be deemed a threat.
Posted by AUsteriskPride
Albuquerque, NM
Member since Feb 2011
18385 posts
Posted on 3/9/19 at 8:56 pm to
As long as there are "red flag" recalls for his ilk, sure.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
17806 posts
Posted on 3/9/19 at 9:01 pm to
quote:

Lindsay graham isn't wrong here.


He is.

quote:

As someone deeply against most gun control, I strongly support what some are calling the "gun violence restraining order"...or GVRO


Bull. fricking. shite. Fudd. Why don't you do yourself a massive favor and research exactly how these laws have been applied and how easily they can be abused to deprive someone of an individual civil right. Nobody in their right mind would accept such a law if it meant your 1st Amendment rights could be suspended on the accusation of someone related to them. Got a vengeful ex-wife that knows you own a gun? This is like a no-knock raid against gun owners.
This post was edited on 3/9/19 at 9:17 pm
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
61071 posts
Posted on 3/9/19 at 9:02 pm to
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If you show a picture of you hunting, you could be deemed a threat.
Already starting. Notice how the leftists presume if someone owns a gun they are a threat, and likely guilty of something. Afetrall, no one neeeeeeds a gun.
This post was edited on 3/9/19 at 9:02 pm
Posted by AUsteriskPride
Albuquerque, NM
Member since Feb 2011
18385 posts
Posted on 3/9/19 at 9:04 pm to
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And the trump dudes loved him jut last week,funny how that works.



What's funny? You act like that's a bad thing. Sorry the right isn't comprised of mindless puppets that just continue to support someone regardless of their actions, while all along the way playing mental gymnastics to justify said actions. You're a mindless dolt, a drone, in a sense, you have zero individuality. You're just a parrot.
This post was edited on 3/9/19 at 9:06 pm
Posted by thejudge
Westlake, LA
Member since Sep 2009
14760 posts
Posted on 3/9/19 at 9:09 pm to
quote:

Lindsay graham isn't wrong here.

As someone deeply against most gun control, I strongly support what some are calling the "gun violence restraining order"...or GVRO


Just a few years ago they were arguing for the right to kill an infant before the twenty week mark..

Now they are up to post birth abortions....

You give these fricks one fricking inch and they'll take a fricking mile.

Play "just the tip" and they'll be balls deep in no time.

You should know better.
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
42679 posts
Posted on 3/9/19 at 9:16 pm to
Isn't the dumbass running for reelection next year? This is not smart.

And just for the record, my stance on Graham has been, "If you can flip, you can flop back." He helped Trump on several occasions in 2018, but I still don't trust him. There's definitely a story with that guy; I just don't know what it is.
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