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re: Steven Spielberg does not want Netflix films to be nominated for Academy Awards
Posted on 3/1/19 at 10:35 pm to Fewer Kilometers
Posted on 3/1/19 at 10:35 pm to Fewer Kilometers
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Spielberg wants The Oscars to continue to be about a specific segment of film entertainment.
Well then he's missed the boat by at least 15-20 years. The Oscars used to be about awarding the best mainstream cinema had to offer. Over the last 15 years, it has become a highlight reel of indie arthouse flicks that no one ever sees. That's one of the reasons why ratings have been on the decline.
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Posted on 3/1/19 at 10:45 pm to RollTide1987
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it has become a highlight reel of indie arthouse flicks that no one ever sees.
Complete bullshite. Bohemian Rhapsody, A Star is Born, Black Panther... this board loses it when the Oscars try to add popular movies and popular movie categories, now it’s an indie movie highlight reel?
They expanded their precious Best Picture category to get popular pictures on the show. If anything they’ve stretched the Oscars to get away from being too indie.
Posted on 3/1/19 at 11:01 pm to Fewer Kilometers
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Complete bullshite. Bohemian Rhapsody, A Star is Born, Black Panther... this board loses it when the Oscars try to add popular movies and popular movie categories, now it’s an indie movie highlight reel?
I missed the part where those films won Best Picture. Since 2007, the Best Picture winners have grossed the following amount in the United States:
2018: Green Book ($71 million)
2017: The Shape of Water ($64 million)
2016: Moonlight ($28 million)
2015: Spotlight ($45 million)
2014: Birdman ($42 million)
2013: 12 Years a Slave ($57 million)
2012: Argo ($136 million)
2011: The Artist ($45 million)
2010: The King's Speech ($138 million)
2009: The Hurt Locker ($17 million)
2008: Slumdog Millionaire ($141 million)
2007: No Country For Old Men ($74 million)
Not since 2012 has a film that has won Best Picture grossed more than $100 million in the United States and it has only happened three times since 2007. Films that used to win Best Picture were movies like Titanic, Gladiator, and The Lord of the Rings. You don't see that anymore.
Also....films like Black Panther, Bohemian Rhapsody, and (to a lesser extent) A Star is Born getting nominated have everything to do with the failure of popular films getting nominated over the last few years. I think Mad Max: Fury Road and The Martian were the last true blockbusters to get nominated before this year.
This post was edited on 3/1/19 at 11:08 pm
Posted on 3/1/19 at 11:06 pm to RollTide1987
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I missed the part where those films won Best Picture.
I missed the part where you SAID Best Picture. You said that it’s a highlight reel of pictures that no one sees, which is not true. Especially this year.
Posted on 3/1/19 at 11:17 pm to Fewer Kilometers
Who cares? I just want to see good movies or episodic shows. No one gives a shite about awards outside of the film industry, so I assume you are in the film industry.
Haha.
This post was edited on 3/1/19 at 11:18 pm
Posted on 3/1/19 at 11:30 pm to RollTide1987
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think Mad Max: Fury Road and The Martian were the last true blockbusters to get nominated before this year.
Which “true” blockbusters do you believe should have been nominated from 2016 or 2017?
Even though La La Land and Dunkirk made as much or more domestically than Mad Max
This post was edited on 3/1/19 at 11:36 pm
Posted on 3/1/19 at 11:35 pm to RLDSC FAN
Someone feels threatened.
Posted on 3/1/19 at 11:49 pm to Fewer Kilometers
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You said that it’s a highlight reel of pictures that no one sees, which is not true.
It's true for the most part, especially in recent years. 2018 was only different because the Academy felt pressure to nominate popular films to slow their ratings decline.
2017 Best Picture line-up
The Shape of Water (winner) - $63.8 million
Call Me By Your Name - $18 million
Darkest Hour - $56.4 million
Dunkirk - $189.7 million
Get Out - $176 million
Lady Bird - $48.9 million
Phantom Thread - $21.1 million
The Post - $81.9 million
Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri - $54.5 million
2016 Best Picture line-up
Moonlight (winner) - $27.8 million
Arrival - $100.5 million
Fences - $57.6 million
Hacksaw Ridge - $67.2 million
Hell or High Water - $27 million
Hidden Figures - $169.7 million
La La Land - $151.1 million
Lion - $51.7 million
Manchester By the Sea - $47.6 million
2015 Best Picture line-up
Spotlight (winner) - $45 million
The Big Short - $70.2 million
Bridge of Spies - $72.3 million
Brooklyn - $38.3 million
Mad Max: Fury Road - $154 million
The Martian - $228.4 million
The Revenant - $183.6 million
Room - $14.6 million
2014 Best Picture line-up
Birdman (winner) - $42.3 million
American Sniper - $350.1 million
Boyhood - $25.3 million
The Grand Budapest Hotel - $59.3 million
The Imitation Game - $91.1 million
Selma - $52 million
The Theory of Everything - $35.8 million
Whiplash - $13 million
2013 Best Picture line-up
12 Years a Slave (winner) - $56.6 million
American Hustle - $150.1 million
Captain Phillips - $107.1 million
Dallas Buyers Club - $27.2 million
Gravity - $274 million
Her - $25.5 million
Nebraska - $17.6 million
Philomena - $37.7 million
The Wolf of Wall Street - $116.9 million
2012 Best Picture line-up
Argo (winner) - $136 million
Amour - $6.7 million
Beasts of the Southern Wild - $12.7 million
Django Unchained - $162.8 million
Les MIserables - $148.8 million
Life of Pi - $124.9 million
Lincoln - $182.2 million
Silver Linings Playbook - $132 million
Zero Dark Thirty - $95.7 million
2011 Best Picture line-up
The Artist (winner) - $44.6 million
The Descendants - $82.5 million
Extremely Loud & Incredibly Close - $31.8 million
The Help - $169.7 million
Hugo - $73.8 million
Midnight in Paris - $56.8 million
Moneyball - $75.6 million
The Tree of Life - $13.3 million
War Horse - $79.8 million
2010 Best Picture line-up
The King's Speech (winner) - $138.7 million
127 Hours - $18.3 million
Black Swan - $106.9 million
The Fighter - $93.6 million
Inception - $292.5 million
The Kids Are All Right - $20.8 million
The Social Network - $96.9 million
TOY STORY 3 - $415 MILLION
True Grit - $171.2 million
Winter's Bone - $6.5 million
2009 Best Picture line-up
The Hurt Locker (winner) - $17 million
AVATAR - $760.5 MILLION
The Blind Side - $255.9 million
District 9 - $115.6 million
An Education - $12.5 million
Inglourious Basterds - $120.5 million
Precious: Based on the Novel "Push" by Sapphire - $47.5 million
A Serious Man - $9.2 million
Up - $293 million
Up in the Air - $83.8 million
Let's be honest though: a film earning $100 million or more in this day and age is nowhere near as impressive as a film surpassing $100 million at the box office 20 years ago. For instance, 2000's Best Picture winner Gladiator earned $187 million at the domestic box office. Today that would be a $314 million domestic box office haul.
The vast majority of the $100 million films I highlighted wouldn't have sniffed that much money when adjusted for the dollar of the 1990s. There have been only a handful of sure fire blockbuster hits that have been nominated for the big prize since they increased the number of potential Best Picture nominees.
This post was edited on 3/1/19 at 11:56 pm
Posted on 3/1/19 at 11:54 pm to RLDSC FAN
Bird Box was robbed!
Posted on 3/1/19 at 11:55 pm to Fewer Kilometers
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That if you change The Oscars enough then they’re no longer The Oscars. If you want to create an anything-goes award show then create one. Spielberg wants The Oscars to continue to be about a specific segment of film entertainment.
But who's trying to change the Oscars? Spielberg is that's who. He's the one who wants to change the rules. Netflix followed the rules to make their film eligible.
Posted on 3/1/19 at 11:57 pm to RollTide1987
You keep posting these lists of films that “no one has seen”, and yet the majority of them have threads on this board where they’ve been discussed while they were in theaters.
Hell or High Water, Spotlight... not making a hundred mill doesn’t make it an obscure indie film.
Hell or High Water, Spotlight... not making a hundred mill doesn’t make it an obscure indie film.
Posted on 3/1/19 at 11:57 pm to RLDSC FAN
Spielberg is a filmmakers filmmaker - a romanticist... And I praise him for it.
Hell I wish they still only showed film projections and not digital. There's magic in it.
Just like Tarantino said, with digital projectors, it's just TV in public.
Spielberg was inspired to be a filmmaker by going to the movies. He specifically said after he saw Lawrence of Arbaia in the theater, he knew what he wanted to dedicate his life to. Without the movie theater, there may have never been a Steven Spielberg as we know him today.
I hate that Roma was nominated for Oscars. If nothing else, Netflix films must at least have a designated theater count and length, preferably over 1000 theaters and at least a 1-month run to get the nomination.
That way, both media bases are satisfied.
Hell I wish they still only showed film projections and not digital. There's magic in it.
Just like Tarantino said, with digital projectors, it's just TV in public.
Spielberg was inspired to be a filmmaker by going to the movies. He specifically said after he saw Lawrence of Arbaia in the theater, he knew what he wanted to dedicate his life to. Without the movie theater, there may have never been a Steven Spielberg as we know him today.
I hate that Roma was nominated for Oscars. If nothing else, Netflix films must at least have a designated theater count and length, preferably over 1000 theaters and at least a 1-month run to get the nomination.
That way, both media bases are satisfied.
Posted on 3/2/19 at 12:00 am to Jack Ruby
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Spielberg was inspired to be a filmmaker by going to the movies. He specifically said after he saw Lawrence of Arbaia in the theater, he knew what he wanted to dedicate his life to. Without the movie theater, there may have never been a Steven Spielberg as we know him today.
Other guys like Nolan have said pretty much the same thing. Which is why I can understand where they’re coming from
Posted on 3/2/19 at 12:08 am to Merck
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Netflix followed the rules to make their film eligible.
They did. But when a studio builds their business model on participating at a rate that is the bare minimum set by the rules instead of going all in with the spirit of the competition then they shouldn’t be surprised if the other parties want to adjust the rules to require reasonable participation.
Posted on 3/2/19 at 12:24 am to RLDSC FAN
Steven needs to come into the 21st century.
Posted on 3/2/19 at 1:58 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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like butter in my arse, lollipops in my mouth
Posted on 3/2/19 at 2:50 am to jg8623
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I saw A Star is Born in Dolby theater and yes, it was better than watching it at home because of the sound.
I'll put the audio of my home theater up against damn near any mo ie theater.
But then again what I have is quite a few notches above the typical home theater.
Posted on 3/2/19 at 4:00 am to RollTide1987
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He's trying to keep the old system in place where movies are watched as a community inside of a movie theater. The problem with that is, no one wants to pay $12-15 a ticket to watch an evening show at a movie theater anymore. Once you factor in a family of four and concessions, you're looking at a $100 bill just to go see a movie on a Friday or a Saturday night. Sitting down on the couch with the family to marathon multiple original films on a streaming site is so much more cost effective.
I refuse to go to the Baton Rouge theaters on a weekend night. Too many trashy people. So I end up never being able to catch a show in theaters. It isn’t about the cost. I really enjoy going to movies.
Posted on 3/2/19 at 7:01 am to WicKed WayZ
Part of the fun is experiencing it with other people? People suck and text all movies. I don’t want to have to pay $20 a ticket to have some 16 year old kid talking to their friends throughout the entire movie.
Movie theaters will absolutely die out, sooner than we think
Movie theaters will absolutely die out, sooner than we think
Posted on 3/2/19 at 7:16 am to RLDSC FAN
It’s interesting that someone who has likely made a shite ton of money off of home video is saying that movies made for home audiences are illegitimate.
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