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re: goddammittt!! - this is pathetic - make the case!!
Posted on 2/15/19 at 10:05 am to MSUmtowndawg
Posted on 2/15/19 at 10:05 am to MSUmtowndawg
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It really is a bad speech. I hate he missed a great opportunity
The worst speech I ever heard - at the most critical time in his tenure
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Posted on 2/15/19 at 10:05 am to Sentrius
quote:Yeah, you're not wrong
That's how bad this presser, errrr speaking engagement really is.
Nobody knows what he's talking about.
Posted on 2/15/19 at 10:05 am to SEC. 593
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I honestly couldn't tell you what this press conference was about, if I didn't already know.
He said it right off the top. The rest literally is making the case.
Posted on 2/15/19 at 10:05 am to Sentrius
He said hes signing it cuck
Posted on 2/15/19 at 10:06 am to Yak
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I thought I heard him say he was signing the bill
You heard right. He is signing it
Posted on 2/15/19 at 10:06 am to Hooligan's Ghost
where are all the other Republicans? Where is Mitch McConnell? Just let em in McConnell. Is that it? where is the house minority leader? Why is Trump the only Republican trying to stop illegal immigration?
not one of them even has a backbone. it is pathetic.
not one of them even has a backbone. it is pathetic.
Posted on 2/15/19 at 10:06 am to Yak
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I thought I heard him say he was signing the bill
I never heard him say that - maybe I was too busy throwing my shoes at the TV
Posted on 2/15/19 at 10:07 am to SDVTiger
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He said hes signing it
Congrats to the democrats and GOPe for a hell of a spin job against Trump.
Trump deserves all the shite he catches from this abortion of a bill.
Posted on 2/15/19 at 10:09 am to GRTiger
Well maybe it was the diatribes into:
Chinese trade
UK trade
Brexit
Chinese drug problems
Military spending
Defense spending
Mexico murders
Etc
Etc
Etc
That lent to my confusion.
Chinese trade
UK trade
Brexit
Chinese drug problems
Military spending
Defense spending
Mexico murders
Etc
Etc
Etc
That lent to my confusion.
Posted on 2/15/19 at 10:10 am to Sentrius
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Sentrius
As predicted you are back melting over a 1yd loss
Posted on 2/15/19 at 10:11 am to ChineseBandit58
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at the most critical time in his tenure
What are you talking about?
He's been on this for years. This isn't some monumental/new day or speech. Plus he knows he has to go through the courts to win this one.
He is intentionally making it out to be not a big deal. It's part of the sales pitch. He literally suggested that nobody has cared about previous declarations, implying the question why do you care now?
Posted on 2/15/19 at 10:11 am to ChineseBandit58
Promising the wall was his downfall from the beginning. He should have never promised something that will never be built. Not only promised, but made it the centerpiece of his presidency.
Posted on 2/15/19 at 10:11 am to Sentrius
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ongrats to the democrats and GOPe for a hell of a spin job against Trump.
Trump deserves all the shite he catches from this abortion of a bill.
yep - this is my first great disappointment with Trump - I find nothing he has said today that soothes my fears at all.
He did not make the case - a case that is so obvious even I could have done it for him.
I cannot believe what I just watched - I'm going outside and kick the puppies and shoot the cardinals
Posted on 2/15/19 at 10:12 am to RogerTheShrubber
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that will never be built.
So why is it being built?
Posted on 2/15/19 at 10:12 am to SUB
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Honestly, I think he'd get more support if he'd focus more on the economics than crime. Both are important, but make the argument that we can't be a welfare state for the rest of the world, though we sympathize for those looking for a better life and coming here. However we already have humanitarian crisis with poor and homeless in our country that need fixing, and we seem to be putting non-citizens needs before our own citizens (many veterans).
If this is such a huge humanitarian crisis, then other prosperous countries should offer to help. The burden shouldn't fall all on us. But since none of them are helping, the wall must go up.
The thing is, he's already stated this stuff many, many times. He's brought in professionals that stated it many, many times as well. He's tried everything and everyone knows what the deal is here. He doesn't have to say it all again, he's not changing any minds at this point.
He's basically reached the end of the rope, there's nothing left to say.
Posted on 2/15/19 at 10:13 am to ChineseBandit58
Don't you dare hurt that Saint of a bird.
Posted on 2/15/19 at 10:13 am to SEC. 593
The speech was also about the Chinese trade deal. He's got a lot of things going on, he isn't beholden to one at a time.
And it helped dilute the EO, which is clearly his intent.
This is all directly related to the border wall EO. Why would discussing that confuse you?
And it helped dilute the EO, which is clearly his intent.
quote:
Chinese drug problems
Military spending
Defense spending
Mexico murders
This is all directly related to the border wall EO. Why would discussing that confuse you?
Posted on 2/15/19 at 10:16 am to GRTiger
He was skipping from one topic to the next and then back. This may be the worst speach I've ever listened to.
What I'm saying is he never connected the dots. He just spit out half a talking point and moved on. Like he was given a template for the speech and just read off the list.
What I'm saying is he never connected the dots. He just spit out half a talking point and moved on. Like he was given a template for the speech and just read off the list.
Posted on 2/15/19 at 10:16 am to SDVTiger
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As predicted you are back melting over a 1yd loss
I cannot imagine being an absolute taint licking sycophant over a politician to the level you are over Trump who thinks he cannot do anything wrong at all.
It's one of the most pathetic things ever.
Posted on 2/15/19 at 10:18 am to ChineseBandit58
I just want to be clear. Did he say China doesn't have a drug problem?
LINK
And does he really believe a stupid fricking wall will stop the drug trade?
40% of the drugs from Mexico and South America come through the air. There is a good bit that comes from entry points. There are tunnels where drugs are smuggled in. But a wall is going to stop the problem.
And these drugs are not causing the addictions, it's just supplying demand. The addiction starts here.. at home.. Inside the country.
And as for as declaring a national emergency here is some info on it.
Ronald Reagan
EO 12170 - Blocking Iranian Government Property (ACTIVE)
EO 12211 - Further Prohibitions on Transactions with Iran (ENDED)
EO 12444 - Continuation of Export Control Regulations (ENDED)
EO 12470 - Continuation of Export Control Regulations (ENDED)
EO 12513 - Prohibiting Trade and Certain Other Transactions Involving Nicaragua (ENDED)
EO 12532 - Prohibiting Trade and Certain Other Transactions Involving South Africa (ENDED)
EO 12543 - Prohibiting Trade and Certain Transactions Involving Libya (ENDED)
EO 12635 - Prohibiting Certain Transactions with Respect to Panama (ENDED)
LINK
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Chinese people tend to regard widespread addiction to opium as one of the main causes of the country’s decline in the 18th and 19th centuries, and the Communist government has consistently enforced a zero-tolerance policy on drug offenses. Yet in recent years, the country has been engulfed in a series of scandals involving celebrities who use illegal drugs recreationally. These public figures usually consume synthetic drugs like ecstasy, methamphetamine, and ketamine.
LINK
And does he really believe a stupid fricking wall will stop the drug trade?
40% of the drugs from Mexico and South America come through the air. There is a good bit that comes from entry points. There are tunnels where drugs are smuggled in. But a wall is going to stop the problem.
And these drugs are not causing the addictions, it's just supplying demand. The addiction starts here.. at home.. Inside the country.
And as for as declaring a national emergency here is some info on it.
quote:
WASHINGTON — If President Donald Trump declares a national emergency at the nation’s southern border, it will be the 60th time a sitting president has used the National Emergencies Act since it was passed in 1976 – but he’ll be using it like no other president has.
quote:
Jimmy Carter
EO 12170 - Blocking Iranian Government Property (ACTIVE)
EO 12211 - Further Prohibitions on Transactions with Iran (ENDED)
Ronald Reagan
EO 12170 - Blocking Iranian Government Property (ACTIVE)
EO 12211 - Further Prohibitions on Transactions with Iran (ENDED)
EO 12444 - Continuation of Export Control Regulations (ENDED)
EO 12470 - Continuation of Export Control Regulations (ENDED)
EO 12513 - Prohibiting Trade and Certain Other Transactions Involving Nicaragua (ENDED)
EO 12532 - Prohibiting Trade and Certain Other Transactions Involving South Africa (ENDED)
EO 12543 - Prohibiting Trade and Certain Transactions Involving Libya (ENDED)
EO 12635 - Prohibiting Certain Transactions with Respect to Panama (ENDED)
quote:
George H.W. Bush
EO 12730 - Continuation of Export Control Regulations (ENDED)
EO 12722 - Blocking Iraqi Government Property and Prohibiting Transactions with Iraq (ENDED)
EO 12775 - Prohibiting Certain Transactions with Respect to Haiti (ENDED)
EO 12808 - Blocking Yugoslav Government Property and Property of the Governments of Serbia and Montenegro (ENDED)
EO 12735 - Chemical and Biological Weapons Proliferation (ENDED)
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Bill Clinton
EO 12923 - Continuation of Export Control Regulations (ENDED)
EO 12924 - Continuation of Export Control Regulations (ENDED) Proclamation 6867 - Declaration of a National Emergency and Invocation of Emergency Authority Relating to the Regulation of the Anchorage and Movement of Vessels (ACTIVE)
EO 12865 - Prohibiting Certain Transactions Involving UNITA (ENDED)
EO 12914 - Prohibiting Certain Transactions with Respect to Haiti (ENDED)
EO 12934 - Blocking Property and Additional Measures With Respect to the Bosnian Serb-Controlled Areas of the Republic of Bosnia and Herzegovina (ENDED)
EO 12947 - Prohibiting Transactions With Terrorists Who Threaten to Disrupt the Middle East Peace Process (ACTIVE)
EO 12957 - Prohibiting Certain Transactions with Respect to the Development of Iranian Petroleum Resources (ACTIVE)
EO 12978 - Blocking Assets and Prohibiting Transactions with Significant Narcotics Traffickers (ACTIVE)
EO 13047 - Prohibiting New Investment in Burma (ENDED)
EO 13067 - Blocking Sudanese Government Property and Prohibiting Transactions with Sudan (ACTIVE)
EO 13088 - Blocking Property of the Governments of the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia, he Republic of Serbia, and the Republic of Montenegro, and Prohibiting New Investment in the Republic of Serbia in Response to the Situation in Kosovo (ENDED)
EO 13129 - Blocking Property and Prohibiting Transactions with the Taliban (ENDED)
EO 13159 - Blocking Property of the Government of the Russian Federation Relating to the Disposition of Highly Enriched Uranium Extracted from Nuclear Weapons (ENDED)
EO 13194 - Prohibiting the Importation of Rough Diamonds from Sierra Leone (ENDED)
EO 12868 - Measures to Restrict the Participation by United States Persons in Weapons Proliferation Activities (ENDED)
EO 12930 - Measures to Restrict the Participation by United States Persons in Weapons Proliferation Activities (ENDED)
EO 12938 - Proliferation of Weapons of Mass Destruction (ACTIVE)
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