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Projecting Market Values for Top Saints Free Agents (Saintswire article)
Posted on 2/8/19 at 10:11 am
Posted on 2/8/19 at 10:11 am
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The NFL’s 2019 free agency period is rapidly approaching the New Orleans Saints, and they’re going to have a number of tough negotiations to work through. Several of the Saints’ in-house free agents should return on veteran’s minimum contracts, but most of them will require bigger deals to remain in New Orleans: guys like Teddy Bridgewater, Mark Ingram, and the other players on this list. Here’s our take for what’s in store for each player, compared to what their peers have received from other teams.
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QB Teddy Bridgewater: $22 million per year
Bridgewater’s contract voids early in March, and he’ll have the opportunity to negotiate with teams ahead of schedule. It’s tough to pin down his contract value, but the voided years in his Saints deal come out to about $22 million per year. That would clock in between Joe Flacco and Russell Wilson as the eleventh-highest paid salary. Look for Kirk Cousins’ three year, fully-guaranteed contract to become standard among starting quarterbacks like Bridgewater.
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CB P.J. Williams: $5.25 million per year
Williams could have been due a big payday but he has a driving-while-influenced charge hanging over his head. Slot defenders like him are paid like starters in today’s NFL, and if he’s cleared of charges it wouldn’t be shocking to see him draw a contract worth about $5 million per year. But if that stigma sticks with him, he may have to play at the veteran’s minimum. We’ll set his ceiling at three years, $16 million with $8 million guaranteed — a little less than what Nickell Robey-Coleman got.
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DT Tyeler Davison: $5 million per year
Davison is largely an unremarkable player, but it wouldn’t be shocking to see a team overpay him in a bid to improve their run defense. Look at the deal Philadelphia Eagles backup nose tackle Beau Allen received last year from the Tampa Bay Buccaneers: three years, $15 million with $6.5 million in guarantees.
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RB Mark Ingram: $4.5 million per year
We dug deeper into Ingram’s contract outlook here, and arrived at this conclusion: two years, $9.1 million with $5 million guaranteed at signing. That average annual value of $4.55 million per year would rank fifteenth in the NFL, sitting between Dion Lewis at $4.95 million and Marshawn Lynch at $4.5. Running backs at his age just aren’t highly paid in the NFL.
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DE Alex Okafor: $4.5 million per year
Hopefully Okafor will choose to stay with the Saints on his current contract. But he hit enough incentives to activate his 2019 player option, should he choose to exercise it. If he does, Okafor could get a contract as large as what Brooks Reed ($22.5 million over five years) or Kareem Martin ($15 million over three years, with $7.25 million guaranteed) signed.
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DB Chris Banjo: $1.75 million per year
Banjo is another key special teams contributor who has made an impact in his few snaps outside the coverage units. He has appeared sparingly on defense (just 86 snaps the last two years) but logged three interceptions. Safeties were in low demand last offseason, so the best Banjo can probably find would be a two-year, $3.5 million deal — close to what his former teammate, Rafael Bush, found with the Buffalo Bills.
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WR Dez Bryant: $1.25 million per year
The Saints agreed to a one-year contract with Bryant that sat just above the veteran’s minimum at $1.25 million, with no guarantees. It featured escalating incentives based off receptions, beginning at $50,000 for 25 catches and topping at $200,000 for 40. If Bryant makes a healthy return from his Achilles injury, he would probably give it another go with the Saints on another low-cost deal.
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LB Craig Robertson: $1 million per year
Robertson will probably agree to a veteran’s minimum contract, qualifying him for about $930,000 per year. Given his special teams prowess and past experience as a starter, some team could opt to pay him more than $1 million per year. The Saints probably want to retain their special teams captain, so a two year, $2 million contract with about $1.2 million in guarantees would be ideal.
Posted on 2/8/19 at 10:25 am to TideSaint
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CB P.J. Williams: $5.25 million per year
Haha no
Posted on 2/8/19 at 10:32 am to TideSaint
quote:No
QB Teddy Bridgewater: $22 million per year
quote:No
CB P.J. Williams: $5.25 million per year
quote:No
DT Tyeler Davison: $5 million per year
quote:Yes
RB Mark Ingram: $4.5 million per year
quote:Yes
DE Alex Okafor: $4.5 million per year
quote:Yes
DB Chris Banjo: $1.75 million per year
quote:Yes
WR Dez Bryant: $1.25 million per year
quote:Yes
LB Craig Robertson: $1 million per year
Posted on 2/8/19 at 10:33 am to TideSaint
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QB Teddy Bridgewater: $22 million per year
Way too much for us. Not even in the same ballpark.
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CB P.J. Williams: $5.25 million per year
Too much. I'd do like 3 mil a year.
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DT Tyeler Davison: $5 million per year
Too much. Around 3 mil.
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RB Mark Ingram: $4.5 million per year
DE Alex Okafor: $4.5 million per year
DB Chris Banjo: $1.75 million per year
WR Dez Bryant: $1.25 million per year
I'm ok with these
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LB Craig Robertson: $1 million per year
I think he's worth a little more than that. I think he would take that to stay with us though.
Posted on 2/8/19 at 10:33 am to TideSaint
Michael Thomas wants extension before contract year
18 million per year
18 million per year
Posted on 2/8/19 at 10:35 am to Babble
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CB P.J. Williams: $5.25 million per year
Haha no
That would make him as valuable as PRob was in F.A. last year. I find that laughable.
I want PJ back, but no way would I overpay.
Posted on 2/8/19 at 10:47 am to TideSaint
Give me Ingram, Okafor, Banjo, and Robertson.
Posted on 2/8/19 at 11:03 am to TideSaint
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QB Teddy Bridgewater: $22 million per year
Someone will over pay him but not us. Probably redskins.
Posted on 2/8/19 at 12:07 pm to TideSaint
quote:What the frick?!?!?!
QB Teddy Bridgewater: $22 million per year
Teddy hasnt been a starter in 3 seasons, and this is what they came up with. If some team offers him that, well i wish him good luck for the rest of his career. Id rather draft a QB in the first round of 2020.
Posted on 2/8/19 at 12:15 pm to Babble
quote:What did we sign PRob for. Because PJ was better this year than PRob was that final year with the Eagles. The guy got his arse kicked on the outside against ATL but when they moved him back inside he got better and better all season and ended up playing at a pretty high level. I'd love to have him back.
CB P.J. Williams: $5.25 million per year
Haha no
This post was edited on 2/8/19 at 12:16 pm
Posted on 2/8/19 at 12:21 pm to King George
PRob was a top 5 slot CB in 2017.
PJ was better against the run. He's actually better than most slot CB's against the run. PRob blew him out of the water in coverage though.
PJ was better against the run. He's actually better than most slot CB's against the run. PRob blew him out of the water in coverage though.
This post was edited on 2/8/19 at 12:23 pm
Posted on 2/8/19 at 12:29 pm to King George
Robinson is coming back next year, which pushes PJ back to the dime CB. He improved significantly over the course of the year, but not for $5+ million/year level. If he repeated what he accomplished this year again, and kept improving than maybe after that.
As far as Bridgewater goes, teams will take a risk on him because they are desperate. I don't think the Saints need to take that risk, with some significant potential free agents coming on the market soon including Wilson, although my guess is they will franchise tag him if they don't get a long-term deal.
That said, some teams will be dropping their veterans over the next year or two for young QBs they want to get out there.
As far as Bridgewater goes, teams will take a risk on him because they are desperate. I don't think the Saints need to take that risk, with some significant potential free agents coming on the market soon including Wilson, although my guess is they will franchise tag him if they don't get a long-term deal.
That said, some teams will be dropping their veterans over the next year or two for young QBs they want to get out there.
Posted on 2/8/19 at 12:35 pm to TideSaint
See ya later Teddy!
Welcome back Mark!
Welcome back Mark!
Posted on 2/8/19 at 12:56 pm to TechDawg2007
IMO, Davison is worth 5 mil.
Posted on 2/8/19 at 1:32 pm to Blueprint
I think we would pay him 5 mil if we didn't have Stallworth.
Stallworth isn't as good at this point in his career, but he makes 573 k in 2019.
Stallworth isn't as good at this point in his career, but he makes 573 k in 2019.
This post was edited on 2/8/19 at 1:38 pm
Posted on 2/8/19 at 1:33 pm to TideSaint
I don't think Teddy will even get half of 22 million a year.
Posted on 2/8/19 at 1:54 pm to Fun Bunch
In a league where garrapolo, Derek carr, Kirk cousins make north of $25 mil?
Case Keenum makes $18 mil
Bridgewater is a pretty safe bet to flirt w $20 mil per
Posted on 2/8/19 at 1:57 pm to GynoSandberg
I do understand how crazy the QB market is, but all of those guys outside of maybe Garopolo did things to earn that money.
Teddy hasn't done shite.
Teddy hasn't done shite.
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