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Precedent for mentally incapacitated Justice?

Posted on 1/29/19 at 8:25 am
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 1/29/19 at 8:25 am
What is the precedent or law for handling a mentally incapacitated Justice? Where are the requirements written and are they upheld?

I don't want this to turn into a thread of people wishing her death, but I am genuinely curious what the law has to say about a Justice who cannot be present to fulfill his/her obligation to the court.
Posted by SleauxPlay
Here and there
Member since Oct 2005
3430 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 8:26 am to
Clarence Thomas is doing fine.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 8:26 am to
Lifetime appointment. Impeachment.

It is that simple.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
117243 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 8:26 am to
Racist
Posted by SlackMaster
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
2786 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 8:27 am to
quote:

Lifetime appointment. Impeachment.

It is that simple.


Yep. In the past, most people had honor and would resign if they couldn't perform their duties.
Posted by MissyTiger
Member since Nov 2018
538 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 8:28 am to
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Lifetime appointment.


Is she alive?
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
26138 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 8:29 am to
quote:

Lifetime appointment. Impeachment.


What qualifies as lifetime? Are they granted indefinite leave from the court if they want? If one is on life support, is that considered alive?
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
117243 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 8:33 am to
Be nice, Hank’s notorious RBG sweater just came in from Prime
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 8:34 am to
quote:

Lifetime appointment. Impeachment.

It is that simple


It really is. this is a great example of how the founders could not anticipate just how scummy future politicians would be what you're saying something because it's not like they were a bunch of saints

But I don't think it really occurred to them that a party would keep an incapacitated judge in office intentionally
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 8:34 am to
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Clarence Thomas is doing fine.


Glad you feel comfortable enough with your racism to express it openly on a message board.

You should get with BMY and talk about your shared hatred of certain peoples...
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
26138 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 8:36 am to
quote:

It really is. this is a great example of how the founders could not anticipate just how scummy future politicians would be what you're saying something because it's not like they were a bunch of saints

But I don't think it really occurred to them that a party would keep an incapacitated judge in office intentionally





Probably too medical advancements. I'd be surprised if they foresaw medically induced comas and life support as a means of extending someones "life"
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 8:37 am to
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Probably too medical advancements. I'd be surprised if they foresaw medically induced comas and life support as a means of extending someones "life


True. But I think their basic oversight is that they would have assumed that dignified people wouldn't even want to stay in a position when they were incapacitated

Make no mistake. If Ginsburg is out of it now but being maintained it is something she wanted
Posted by Dday63
Member since Sep 2014
2393 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 8:38 am to
Who says she is mentally incapacitated? She is physically ill, but I haven't heard anyone comment on her physic as l ability.

If she cannot do her job, I'm sure she will retire. Her temporary absence from the bench does not prevent her from doing her job.
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
26138 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 8:40 am to
quote:

Make no mistake. If Ginsburg is out of it now but being maintained it is something she wanted


Unfortunately, I don't disagree. She owes herself and her loved ones more than that if true.

I'm just curious if she is in a coma how long they can keep it up before a decision has to be made on her seat.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
16971 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 9:09 am to
The last time the question about her physical/mental state arose they released that ridiculous exercise video. This time.....not a sighting or a statement from her nor her showing up for work.

She could easily make an appearance....she hasnt, for anything including her job....
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
29619 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 9:12 am to
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Lifetime


Define "lifetime"... better yet, define "life"...
Posted by FalseProphet
Mecca
Member since Dec 2011
11719 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 9:18 am to
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This time.....not a sighting or a statement from her nor her showing up for work.


Sh missed two weeks of oral argument (11 cases, I think). Justice Rehnquist missed 44 case arguments when he was ill earlier this century.

quote:

She could easily make an appearance....she hasnt, for anything including her job....


Neither did Rehnquist. And, after those two weeks of missed arguments, there is not another conference until Feb. 15, so there is no "public" court appearance for her to have until then.

I get all the speculation, but this isn't the Court's first rodeo.
Posted by bird35
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
13127 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 9:18 am to
IMHO she is in a coma where the democrats plan on keeping her until 2021.



Posted by FalseProphet
Mecca
Member since Dec 2011
11719 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 10:30 am to
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IMHO she is in a coma where the democrats plan on keeping her until 2021.


This also assumes the conservative court members would just "go along" with it.

She still has to vote on cases, and you think they are just going to accept a note or something for her vote?
This post was edited on 1/29/19 at 10:31 am
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
33487 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 10:47 am to
I am pretty sure there are no requirements beyond what is in Article III. The only way someone ceases to be a SCOTUS Justice is death, resignation, or impeachment and removal.

There isn't a 25th Amendment for Justices, nor can the other Justices remove like Congress can.
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