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For 2 sport prospects, negotiating with Manieri to take INITIAL scholarship burden
Posted on 1/27/19 at 8:51 am
Posted on 1/27/19 at 8:51 am
For those 2 sport prospects -ie Maurice Hampton- who may also be a MLB high draft pick (June 3) and therefore a scholarship loss for a D-1 football program (not a loss for baseball) by the new NCAA standards, why can’t this player’s scholarship be allotted to baseball, which, unlike football, IS NOT PENALIZED for losing a signee? Losing signees to MLB happens yearly to programs like LSU Baseball and their only penalty is not having that player. Football can then assume the following years’ scholarship burden as they would have done anyway and baseball gets a great OF for free.
In this way, if the player does not go pro, baseball gets a great OF and assumes some scholarship burden (25-100% negotiated between coaches) and football gets a player without fear of scholarship loss. If Hampton does go pro, then baseball is out nothing, divides its 11.7 scholarships slightly differently and football goes unscathed with 25 full signees.
This arrangement simply negates the new NCAA penalty on football for having prospects sign, count toward a maximum total, which can’t be replaced the following year.
In this way, if the player does not go pro, baseball gets a great OF and assumes some scholarship burden (25-100% negotiated between coaches) and football gets a player without fear of scholarship loss. If Hampton does go pro, then baseball is out nothing, divides its 11.7 scholarships slightly differently and football goes unscathed with 25 full signees.
This arrangement simply negates the new NCAA penalty on football for having prospects sign, count toward a maximum total, which can’t be replaced the following year.
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Posted on 1/27/19 at 8:54 am to whoyodaddy
A player on a baseball scholarship cannot play football immediately.
Posted on 1/27/19 at 9:07 am to whoyodaddy
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For those 2 sport prospects -ie Maurice Hampton- who may also be a MLB high draft pick (June 3) and therefore a scholarship loss for a D-1 football program (not a loss for baseball) by the new NCAA standards, why can’t this player’s scholarship be allotted to baseball
Pretty simple. If you allow this, then you have schools like Bama with a football player on baseball scholarship, 4 football players on swimming scholarship, 3 football players on soccer scholarship, 2 football players on tennis scholarship and 2 players on volleyball scholarship.
Which poses more of a problem, what I listed above, or the scenario of possibly losing 1 scholarship (like it currently is)
Posted on 1/27/19 at 9:23 am to whoyodaddy
As pointed out, there is a hierarchy that determines which sport gets the hit for 2 sport athletes. Football is at the top, followed by basketball and baseball. That said there is a difference between being on scholarship and being promised a scholarship. I cannot find any reason why baseball couldn't promise a scholarship (nli or other promise) and not count against football as long as the player doesn't show up and claim the scholarship.
What this means for a guy like Hampton is that he would sign a nli with baseball and not show up until fall camp in Aug. At that point he would immediately count against football.
This is not some scheme to get around the signing numbers. It is a way to work around what I think was an oversight of the new signing rules. The purpose of the rules was to discourage the signing of academically unqualified athletes, not to discourage qualified 2 sport athletes simply because of the timing of the baseball draft.
What this means for a guy like Hampton is that he would sign a nli with baseball and not show up until fall camp in Aug. At that point he would immediately count against football.
This is not some scheme to get around the signing numbers. It is a way to work around what I think was an oversight of the new signing rules. The purpose of the rules was to discourage the signing of academically unqualified athletes, not to discourage qualified 2 sport athletes simply because of the timing of the baseball draft.
Posted on 1/27/19 at 9:32 am to whoyodaddy
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why can’t this player’s scholarship be allotted to baseball, which, unlike football, IS NOT PENALIZED for losing a signee?
Cuz athletes not on a football scholarship cant play football. Football scholarship players can play other sports but not vice versa... thanks Alabama and Bear Bryant.
Posted on 1/27/19 at 9:33 am to whoyodaddy
You can thank Bear Bryant and the gumps’ unethical recruiting bullshite for this not being a possibility
Posted on 1/27/19 at 10:01 am to whoyodaddy
We’ve been over this topic numerous times. Hampton isn’t signing a baseball scholarship and playing football...
Posted on 1/27/19 at 10:11 am to whoyodaddy
Didn’t Miami used to give their football players track scholarships when they were in probation?
Posted on 1/27/19 at 11:32 am to whoyodaddy
The OP may be onto something. Can baseball give him a scholly, and Hampton have nothing to do with football (no contact with coaches, etc.) until that time that he decides to actually go to college? Then if he decides not to go to the MLB, he signs on with the football team assuming we save a scholly for him. If he does go pro, then baseball gets their scholly back and football doesn't lose a scholly.
Posted on 1/27/19 at 2:46 pm to whoyodaddy
Here is a little piece of trivia. Chad Jones and Jared Mitchell have National Championship rings in two sports. Both were on the 2007 BCS Chamionsip football team and the 2009 National Championship baseball team.
Posted on 1/28/19 at 11:28 am to whoyodaddy
I posed this same question a few weeks ago. Duck 
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