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do these people plan to work forever?

Posted on 1/19/19 at 4:14 pm
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41232 posts
Posted on 1/19/19 at 4:14 pm
I was reading an article about social security and saw these numbers? LINK

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As we’ve mentioned before, 91% of workers in their 50s don’t have a pension, and nearly half—46%—don’t participate in a retirement plan at work—not an IRA or 401(k), nothing.


These are the youngest of the baby boomers and they have no retirement savings. Even those baby boomers who are saving for retirement aren't socking enough money away. The median savings of a baby boomer is just $127,000. It will be interesting the impact on the future workforce.
Posted by lnomm34
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2009
12616 posts
Posted on 1/19/19 at 4:25 pm to
I mentioned in a recent Money Board post how I can’t not stress about unknowns as they relate to retirement saving. This is another big worry of mine. What’s going to happen to the value of retirement accounts of those of us who save responsibly?
Posted by ds1tiger
Closer than you think
Member since Apr 2006
359 posts
Posted on 1/19/19 at 4:50 pm to
They will be dependent on their kids or still working.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 1/19/19 at 5:03 pm to
There are many parts of the US where one can live off social security and medicare. Medicaid too, if need be.

No, it isn't an especially comfortable life but it can be done.
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The median savings of a baby boomer is just $127,000.


I thought it would be lower, honestly.
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
53930 posts
Posted on 1/19/19 at 5:31 pm to
quote:

The median savings of a baby boomer is just $127,000.


I gonna call bs on that. Median? I’d put that at around $40k. The OP describes my wife. She has zero retirement other than SS. Luckily, I’ve done plenty to secure our golden years...I hope.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
119430 posts
Posted on 1/19/19 at 5:43 pm to
Ignoring the last 5 months of the market, I have caught up on savings in the last 15 years. I was behind in my younger years, and didn't understand the value of invested money.

I still always shy away from retirement threads on here, because most are still saying you need $3-4M to retire, and even with my efforts I'm not going to be close to that, and I'm hoping to retire late 50's.
Posted by LSUcam7
FL
Member since Sep 2016
7908 posts
Posted on 1/19/19 at 7:15 pm to
And with the way money works with regards to inflation the savings gap seems to be on the wrong track.

For example... let’s assume living expenses per month run about $8,000 for the average retiree. That number will jump to $16,000 around 2050 (inflation adjusted).

The gap between the cost of living and savings base is worsening and what is going to make up that gap?

It’s going to be a second generation of adults taking care of parents and children. It’s going to be Americans working later in life. It means the wealth gap is on track to increase. SSI surely isn’t the solution.

As poorly as pension funds were managed, they forced flows to help support retirees and those plans are long gone.

We need a massive culture shift & Personal Finance needs to be taught in grade schools, nationwide. Not only do savers need to do more, the average American doesn’t think past the next paycheck and is unprepared, and it needs to be emphasized at an early age.
Posted by anc
Member since Nov 2012
18136 posts
Posted on 1/19/19 at 8:17 pm to
My father in law is 63, my mother in law is 60 and hasn’t worked since she was 20, so her social security is basically nothing.

They have $8000 in savings, re mortgaged their home like three years ago, and at Christmas they were talking about retirement.

They believe wrongly that social security will replace their income.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
51914 posts
Posted on 1/19/19 at 9:47 pm to
quote:

It will be interesting the impact on the future workforce


What is going to happen is that there will be an outcry that it’s not fair, these poor people have to work in their golden years, those evil corporations didn’t give enough in wages to even give them the option to save, and that 401ks are a failed experiment, and we need to have a drastically expanded SS supported by increased taxes.


Dems will dovetail the SS solvency issues with this, and will push to add needs based calculations so that there is no tax cap, but you’ll get significant diminishing returns after a certain (probably low for mid classers) amount of replacement income.


Brace yourselves for bullshite.
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
49002 posts
Posted on 1/20/19 at 12:29 pm to
As an Xer there are many in my generation or younger who are just as bad, they live paycheck to paycheck
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
64172 posts
Posted on 1/20/19 at 11:57 pm to
Hasn't been mentioned yet, but boomers lived in a world before Roth IRA's and Traditional IRA's and 401k's existed. They got pensions. And SS.

So, if you poll a boomer and they say they don't have much retirement savings, that doesn't mean they don't have $8000 a month coming in from pensions and SS.

My grandfather had four pensions plus SS when he died. At the age of 91 when he died, he had retired from four careers, all of which paid pensions.

Having "saved" money more than a couple grand wasn't normal for previous generations.
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
30616 posts
Posted on 1/21/19 at 7:56 am to
I have a coworker who has zero money in retirement and could not afford to pay off a $2000.00 hospital bill from his savings. He said he pays $20 a month on it. I asked him how is he going to retire and he said he will work until he dies. He just turned 65 and is enjoying using Medicare since he has not had health insurance the last 20 years. His yearly income is in the 50k range and he lives pay check to pay check.

Some people baffle me.
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