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re: Yes, Trump really did say Mexico would write a check for the wall

Posted on 1/11/19 at 6:12 am to
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
58070 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 6:12 am to
Imagine being so beaten down to have to resort to semantics about a campaign promise

This is what happens when you’re looking for any win possible.
Posted by Ollieoxenfree99
Member since Aug 2018
7748 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 6:37 am to
If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor.


Sounds like a plan. Didn't end up that way.

shite happens, right libs?
This post was edited on 1/11/19 at 6:38 am
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
51161 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 6:52 am to
I really don't care how it's paid for. It's a net gain for the country.
Posted by BurningHeart
Member since Jan 2017
9548 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 6:53 am to
Did you even read the rest of the website, or are you cherry picking?

quote:


Trade tariffs, or enforcement of existing trade rules: There is no doubt that Mexico is engaging in unfair subsidy behavior that has eliminated thousands of U.S. jobs, and which we are obligated to respond to; the impact of any tariffs on the price imports will be more than offset by the economic and income gains of increased production in the United States, in addition to revenue from any tariffs themselves. Mexico needs access to our markets much more than the reverse, so we have all the leverage and will win the negotiation. By definition, if you have a large trade deficit with a nation, it means they are selling far more to you than the reverse - thus they, not you, stand to lose from enforcing trade rules through tariffs (as has been done to save many U.S. industries in the past).

Cancelling visas: Immigration is a privilege, not a right. Mexico is totally dependent on the United States as a release valve for its own poverty - our approvals of hundreds of thousands of visas to their nationals every year is one of our greatest leverage points. We also have leverage through business and tourist visas for important people in the Mexican economy. Keep in mind, the United States has already taken in 4X more migrants than any other country on planet earth, producing lower wages and higher unemployment for our own citizens and recent migrants.

Visa fees: Even a small increase in visa fees would pay for the wall. This includes fees on border crossing cards, of which more than 1 million are issued a year. The border-crossing card is also one of the greatest sources of illegal immigration into the United States, via overstays. Mexico is also the single largest recipient of U.S. green cards, which confer a path to U.S. citizenship. Again, we have the leverage so Mexico will back down.
Conclusion: Mexico has taken advantage of us in another way as well: gangs, drug traffickers and cartels have freely exploited our open borders and committed vast numbers of crimes inside the United States. The United States has borne the extraordinary daily cost of this criminal activity, including the cost of trials and incarcerations. Not to mention the even greater human cost. We have the moral high ground here, and all the leverage. It is time we use it in order to Make America Great Again.
This post was edited on 1/11/19 at 6:55 am
Posted by JohnZeroQ
Pelicans of Lafourche
Member since Jan 2012
8516 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 6:53 am to
I love unedited live Trump. Makes the MSM and its disciples look even weaker.

Very much like this OP. Weak
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
18163 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 7:34 am to
I don't think you realize what "if" means.
Posted by pwejr88
Red Stick
Member since Apr 2007
36247 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 8:35 am to
quote:

*****There are several ways***** to compel Mexico to pay for the wall including the following:


Reading is hard
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
Undisclosed Secure Location
Member since Feb 2008
18850 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 8:44 am to
I don’t see the words “write a check” in what you posted.
Posted by jawnybnsc
Greer, SC
Member since Dec 2016
5026 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 9:45 am to
SO WHAT?!!!
Posted by SUB
Member since Jan 2001
Member since Jan 2009
21108 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 10:09 am to
quote:

Yes, Trump really did say Mexico would write a check for the wall


quote:

There are several ways to compel Mexico to pay for the wall


Those two statements don't agree. It's like saying "I'm going to drive to Canada" vs "There are several ways to get to Canada, and we are going to get there one way or another."

Read the link that you posted. It mentions other means. Nowhere does it say "Mexico will write the U.S. a check for the wall."
This post was edited on 1/11/19 at 10:12 am
Posted by ELVIS U
Member since Feb 2007
9965 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 10:13 am to
You idiots are so easy to troll, no wonder he is the President. Learn to take him seriously, not literally.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
49051 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 10:20 am to
quote:

There are several ways to compel Mexico to pay for the wall including the following:


What were some of the other ways listed? I didn’t see them in your post.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39768 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 12:41 pm to
That briefing has been beaten to death here. Of course a direct payment from Mexico was on the table. Did you think we'd turn that money down if they offered it? And you left out the part in the briefing about Visa fees being used to pay for the wall, or the statement the campaign made just a few months later about the El Chapo bill. Both direct and indirect methods were on the table since the beginning. There were even bills brought to the House floor for some of these ideas, but congress is gonna congress.
Posted by TOPAL
Member since Mar 2010
4546 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 5:22 pm to
You're so educated and intelligent, I must set my life goals to work as an gov't employee. You're so important and you live in the DC area...wow.
Posted by MEd LSU
Member since Dec 2018
3687 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 8:54 pm to
commie
Posted by Shunface
Lafayette County Detention Center
Member since Jan 2013
4598 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 8:59 pm to
Got him this time
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