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re: Trump promises Military 10% pay raise in 2019
Posted on 12/27/18 at 10:03 am to dstone12
Posted on 12/27/18 at 10:03 am to dstone12
quote:It wouldn't offset the difference, but it would be a start.
In order to pay for it, we should reduce Congress’ Pay.
And ftr, I agree. Our service members actually accomplish the job they have. Congress does not. It's why I believe shutdowns should halt Congressional pay throughout the duration, with no retro. When shite actually affects their bottom line, deals will happen.
Until that day which will probably never come, be prepared to enjoy more political posturing, grandstanding, virtue signaling and bloviating from Congress.
There's an old saying that rings true:
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If "pro" is the opposite of "con", is progress the opposite of Congress?
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Posted on 12/27/18 at 10:04 am to Jumbo_Gumbo
So why did you want to work in the military?
Posted on 12/27/18 at 10:05 am to AlaTiger
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This is one of Trump’s best promises
This wasn't a promise, it was something he said he had already done.
Which makes it a lie, since it hasn't been done at all.
Posted on 12/27/18 at 10:05 am to tigeralum06
What's your point with this question?
Posted on 12/27/18 at 10:07 am to VoxDawg
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For what they do, every single US serviceman should make 6 figures.
They should. I agree. But, that’a probably unrealistic.
They ALL should make a living wage, though. What some of these Privates make is horrendous. And, if they’re married with kids, they basically have to be on food stamps.
Our soldiers fighting our wars should be well compensated.
I’m really glad that Trump has addressed this and delivered the news to troops in Iraq on Christmas Day. What a great gift! It’s something that should unite us all.
Posted on 12/27/18 at 10:10 am to BamaAtl
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This wasn't a promise, it was something he said he had already done. Which makes it a lie, since it hasn't been done at all.
Yes, you’re right. He said he already did it. It’s not a promise. He announced it as done.
How can it be a lie? He said they were getting a 10% raise. He announced it. Why would he lie about something so easily disprovable?
That makes no sense.
This post was edited on 12/27/18 at 10:11 am
Posted on 12/27/18 at 10:11 am to AlaTiger
Where can I see video of this and not some quote full of ellipsis?
Posted on 12/27/18 at 10:12 am to dstone12
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In order to pay for it, we should reduce Congress’ Pay.
He should shame them into it
"I serve this country free of charge. Our Congress should do the same"Posted on 12/27/18 at 10:15 am to AlaTiger
He already did it?
Did what? Cut something? Cut what?
And where does it say the budget has the 10% raise?
All I am saying is that the fact we are broke as shite with impending interest about to spike like a volleyball the last thing I want is giving anyone in government a damn raise withput massive cuts elsewhere.
Did what? Cut something? Cut what?
And where does it say the budget has the 10% raise?
All I am saying is that the fact we are broke as shite with impending interest about to spike like a volleyball the last thing I want is giving anyone in government a damn raise withput massive cuts elsewhere.
Posted on 12/27/18 at 10:15 am to reo45
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Sounds great, what do we cut now?
Oh, wait...
No need to wait, the answer is the gravy train for illegals pouring over the border.
You may not have noticed but he's addressing that issue currently.
Posted on 12/27/18 at 10:17 am to AlaTiger
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He said they were getting a 10% raise. He announced it. Why would he lie about something so easily disprovable?
I see you've been asleep since 2015.
Posted on 12/27/18 at 10:18 am to VoxDawg
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For what they do, every single US serviceman should make 6 figures.
I understand your sentiment but this is beyond stupid to suggest. And I say this as someone who was in the military for 6 years.
Posted on 12/27/18 at 10:20 am to ShreveportHog94
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I understand your sentiment but this is beyond stupid to suggest. And I say this as someone who was in the military for 6 years.
I was in for 10. I'd support paying them $100k or more.
Posted on 12/27/18 at 10:25 am to dstone12
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In order to pay for it, we should reduce Congress’ Pay.
With the perks those fricks get (not to mention the under-the-table stuff), 80k per year is far more than adequate. That right there would save 95k per legislator per year.
Posted on 12/27/18 at 10:29 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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I was in for 10. I'd support paying them $100k or more.
lol... you may very well mean that. Now I ask do you think that job in the military is available to you if they are dishing out 6 figure contracts with no experience? and I'm not talking about right now but I'm talking when you first enlisted. Why do college graduates make up a majority of officer grades but a very tiny portion of enlisted? Your position is a short sighted one and I think you know that.
Posted on 12/27/18 at 10:31 am to Godfather1
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With the perks those fricks get (not to mention the under-the-table stuff), 80k per year is far more than adequate. That right there would save 95k per legislator per year.
There should be Congressional dorms. Housing is what kills them, which I understand. Having to have two residences with a family back home and one residence in DC is a real problem. I have sympathy on them there, to be honest.
Posted on 12/27/18 at 10:34 am to VoxDawg
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For what they do, every single US serviceman should make 6 figures.
They already do if you count the numbers on the right.
Trump says objectively false shite all the time because he doesn't care what says and he doesn't have the least regard or respect for people who listen to what he says.
Posted on 12/27/18 at 10:37 am to ShreveportHog94
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Why do college graduates make up a majority of officer grades but a very tiny portion of enlisted?
1. It's not as tiny as you would think. In fact, it's almost a requirement now to advance beyond the rank of E6.
2. Up until a few years ago, you couldn't get student loans repaid going OCS but you could doing a 6-year enlistment.
3. A lot of college graduates coming in do not want the responsibility of being an officer nor do they want to go through the precommissioning process required.
Posted on 12/27/18 at 10:38 am to umop_apisdn
He is trying to address it, yes.
Don't put the cart before the horse.
Economists are fricking idiots and think debt exists in a vacuum and American prosperity will last forever because of their personal greed in the now.
I'm all about helping military, but im also totally against favoring any sector of populace over another. That isn't what government should EVER be about.
If he wishes to push a military wide pay raise I want to cut some where. Anywhere.
It comes across as great but in reality it is just another step to our demise. More money we don't have that feels good to a certain amount of citizens because of the gesture.
Don't put the cart before the horse.
Economists are fricking idiots and think debt exists in a vacuum and American prosperity will last forever because of their personal greed in the now.
I'm all about helping military, but im also totally against favoring any sector of populace over another. That isn't what government should EVER be about.
If he wishes to push a military wide pay raise I want to cut some where. Anywhere.
It comes across as great but in reality it is just another step to our demise. More money we don't have that feels good to a certain amount of citizens because of the gesture.
Posted on 12/27/18 at 10:39 am to AlaTiger
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How can it be a lie? He said they were getting a 10% raise. He announced it. Why would he lie about something so easily disprovable?
I'm not sure if this is sarcasm.
But the raise is supposedly 2.6%, not 10%. He increased the military budget 10%.
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That makes no sense.
No, it doesn't. Yet he seems to do it almost daily. As long as his base doesn't care, he'll keep doing it.
This post was edited on 12/27/18 at 10:41 am
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