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re: Trump promises Military 10% pay raise in 2019
Posted on 12/27/18 at 10:39 am to ShreveportHog94
Posted on 12/27/18 at 10:39 am to ShreveportHog94
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lol... you may very well mean that. Now I ask do you think that job in the military is available to you if they are dishing out 6 figure contracts with no experience? and I'm not talking about right now but I'm talking when you first enlisted. Why do college graduates make up a majority of officer grades but a very tiny portion of enlisted? Your position is a short sighted one and I think you know that.
I scored a 99 on the ASVAB and enlisted into a very high-demand MOS with a B.S.E.E.
I'm good with my chances in your hypothetical. I also don't think that enticing well-qualified individuals to enlist is a bad thing. Maybe we could put people in the Army without gang waivers.
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Posted on 12/27/18 at 10:44 am to JuiceTerry
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JuiceTerry
Such a disgusting poster
Posted on 12/27/18 at 10:47 am to ShreveportHog94
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Why do college graduates make up a majority of officer grades but a very tiny portion of enlisted?
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As a whole, the U.S. military is far better educated than the American population it defends. 82.8% of U.S. military officers in 2010 had at least a bachelor’s degree, compared to 29.9 percent of the general population. 93.6% of enlisted soldiers had at least a high school diploma, compared to 59.5% of America.
LINK
Posted on 12/27/18 at 10:48 am to CGSC Lobotomy
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1. It's not as tiny as you would think. In fact, it's almost a requirement now to advance beyond the rank of E6.
So what are we talking? Less than 10% I would imagine. And then how many become CWO or switch over once they make Staff? Those just entering boot camp I would assume is probably south of 3%. So like I said, you have an entirely different pool of candidates going into the service once you make a base pay north of 50k. So a lot of these people who choose the military to get out of a bad situation or out of service to their country aren't able to do that so much. What do you think they turn to?
This post was edited on 12/27/18 at 10:49 am
Posted on 12/27/18 at 10:51 am to reo45
Hopefully a bunch of entitlements.....
1. Wefare fraud
2. Medicaid/Medicare fraud
3. Funding 80% of the UN
4. Bogus charitable companies....Clinton Foundation is 1.
5. Money to countries that aren't our friends
1. Wefare fraud
2. Medicaid/Medicare fraud
3. Funding 80% of the UN
4. Bogus charitable companies....Clinton Foundation is 1.
5. Money to countries that aren't our friends
Posted on 12/27/18 at 10:52 am to ShreveportHog94
I love that your argument is basically that increasing the quality of our military would be a bad thing. 
Posted on 12/27/18 at 10:57 am to ShreveportHog94
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So what are we talking? Less than 10% I would imagine. And then how many become CWO or switch over once they make Staff? Those just entering boot camp I would assume is probably south of 3%. So like I said, you have an entirely different pool of candidates going into the service once you make a base pay north of 50k. So a lot of these people who choose the military to get out of a bad situation or out of service to their country aren't able to do that so much. What do you think they turn to?
Just using my branch, Signal: A 25-series Soldier typically gets industry training certifications early on that cost others between $400 - $1,000 out of pocket each such as A+, Network+, Security+, Windows 10 CE, CCNA, Ethical Hacker, ITIL Foundacion, Fiber placement and cutting, etc. that are paid for by the military.
Posted on 12/27/18 at 10:59 am to Jbird
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82.8% of U.S. military officers in 2010 had at least a bachelor’s degree, compared to 29.9 percent of the general population.
Not sure how that 82.8% is supposed to work.
Are they saying that the remaining 17.2% have a Master's or higher or that they are in the degree completion program (OCS graduates must have their Bachelor's degree before they pin Captain or they lose their commission)...or are they including Warrant Officers in that total?
This post was edited on 12/27/18 at 11:00 am
Posted on 12/27/18 at 10:59 am to ShreveportHog94
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So a lot of these people who choose the military to get out of a bad situation
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Most members of the military come from middle-class neighborhoods. A neighborhood affluence study found that the middle three quintiles were overrepresented among enlisted recruits, while the top and bottom quintiles were underrepresented.
Posted on 12/27/18 at 11:00 am to CGSC Lobotomy
quote:USAF as well.
Just using my branch, Signal: A 25-series Soldier typically gets industry training certifications early on that cost others between $400 - $1,000 out of pocket each such as A+, Network+, Security+, Windows 10 CE, CCNA, Ethical Hacker, ITIL Foundacion, Fiber placement and cutting, etc. that are paid for by the military.
Posted on 12/27/18 at 11:01 am to CGSC Lobotomy
quote:This.
they are in the degree completion program (OCS graduates must have their Bachelor's degree before they pin Captain or they lose their commission).
Posted on 12/27/18 at 11:07 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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I love that your argument is basically that increasing the quality of our military would be a bad thing
Not saying it wouldn't. And I dont know you from a ham sandwich so maybe you would have made the cut. I'm not sure. I had an associate degree and a great ASVAB and GT. Almost went commissioning but decided against it and got out. Finished an undergrad and working on an MBA. All under Post 911. I think I was compensated well and I think the miltary offers what it can for the pool of candidates that join. I dont want a miltary that joins for the pay check. Obviously you do.
Posted on 12/27/18 at 11:14 am to ShreveportHog94
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Not saying it wouldn't. And I dont know you from a ham sandwich so maybe you would have made the cut. I'm not sure. I had an associate degree and a great ASVAB and GT. Almost went commissioning but decided against it and got out. Finished an undergrad and working on an MBA. All under Post 911. I think I was compensated well and I think the miltary offers what it can for the pool of candidates that join.
I probably would have made this hypothetical cut. If I didn't, then that sucks for me, but I wouldn't want to lower or change those standards so I could get it. Maybe that's because I'm a product of what I did in the Marine Corps...
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I dont want a miltary that joins for the pay check. Obviously you do.
We already have a military that primarily joins for the benefits. You said yourself, multiple times, that many who join are doing so to get out of a bad situation or to make use of the GI Bill. I see nothing wrong with simply shifting the pool to better candidates with similar motivations.
Let's not pretend that it's only the lower end of society who enlists in the military primarily because they want to serve. It's why I enlisted, despite the ability to earn significantly more somewhere else. I also separated because the pay sucked for the work I did and I accomplished what I wanted to accomplish while I was in.
Posted on 12/27/18 at 11:19 am to Jumbo_Gumbo
You chose to do that. How's the old conservative saying go? "Pull yourself up by your bootstraps or get a job at McDonald's"?
Posted on 12/27/18 at 11:44 am to AlaTiger
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What is more important than this.
Well I found the guy who works for the military.
When you do platitudes like this, I might as well retort with "what about the kids!"
Posted on 12/27/18 at 12:00 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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I was in for 10. I'd support paying them $100k or more.
Strip clubs and car dealers around posts would make a killing.
Posted on 12/27/18 at 2:44 pm to TopFlightSecurity
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Strip clubs and car dealers around posts would make a killing.
20% APR for all
Posted on 12/27/18 at 2:48 pm to TopFlightSecurity
They already do.
Posted on 12/27/18 at 3:04 pm to Godfather1
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With the perks they get
MelticDog thinks they are on the up’n’up. No perks here. Thy buy a car, just like you and me.
Sometimes folks just looooove them some politicians.
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