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Rays new stadium deal appears to be dead

Posted on 12/12/18 at 9:31 am
Posted by Tigeralum2008
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Posted on 12/12/18 at 9:31 am
Tampa Bay Times

LAS VEGAS — Hillsborough County officials hoping Major League Baseball commissioner Rob Manfred would help consummate the deal for a new Rays stadium appear to have struck out.

Manfred, in a strongly worded letter sent today, said the framework of the deal lacks specific details necessary for him to "understand the merits and feasibility" of the proposal as well as "the actual level of commitment" from the public side.

Further, Manfred addressed the looming deadline in the three-year window to let St. Petersburg officials know if they will find a new home in Tampa, writing he was "puzzled by the decision to inject me publicly in the process" with only weeks remaining.

Hillsborough County Administrator Mike Merrill said last they included Manfred in the process since he "has influence" on these type of deals and has to approve it. Though the deadline with St. Petersburg is Dec. 31 and an extension would have to be negotiated, Merrill said Tampa officials could keep talking with the Rays until late March.



Posted by NorthshoreTiger76
Pelicans, Saints, & LSU Fan
Member since May 2009
80217 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 9:32 am to
Move them to Montreal
Posted by sicboy
Because Awesome
Member since Nov 2010
77649 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 9:33 am to
Move them to nola.
Posted by craigbiggio
Member since Dec 2009
31805 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 9:34 am to
Contract them
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27305 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 9:34 am to
Nah, Nashville or maybe Las Vegas
Posted by Starchild
Member since May 2010
13550 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 9:35 am to
Montreal or Vegas, here they come!
Posted by Tigeralum2008
Yankees Fan
Member since Apr 2012
17152 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 9:35 am to
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Move them to Montreal



I can't believe how difficult it has been for MLB to run a successful franchise in the state of Florida. Sure, the Marlins have won two titles but the fans never really grew
Posted by NorthshoreTiger76
Pelicans, Saints, & LSU Fan
Member since May 2009
80217 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 9:35 am to
They should have been contracted years ago
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
29266 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 9:36 am to
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I can't believe how difficult it has been for MLB to run a successful franchise in the state of Florida. Sure, the Marlins have won two titles but the fans never really grew


Florida is the transplant problem on steroids with a ton of retirees from NL/AL East markets.
Posted by Tigeralum2008
Yankees Fan
Member since Apr 2012
17152 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 9:46 am to
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Florida is the transplant problem on steroids with a ton of retirees from NL/AL East markets.



That should be a GOOD thing! It means that if you could simply build a base of local fans that occupy 50% of your stadium, you could then get up to 80% filled for games involving your AL East rivals. No one wants opposing fans to outnumber home fans but asses in the seats means $$$ is being made.
Posted by lsutigers1992
Member since Mar 2006
25317 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 9:50 am to
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I can't believe how difficult it has been for MLB to run a successful franchise in the state of Florida. Sure, the Marlins have won two titles but the fans never really grew


They gutted both teams shortly after winning them and replaced them with glorified AAA teams.
Posted by Buckeye Backer
Columbus, Ohio
Member since Aug 2009
9265 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 9:54 am to
Montreal would be a terrible idea in my opinion. Keep the franchise in the USA or if anything Latin America. I agree, either move the team to Las Vegas, San Antonio, Nashville or Omaha...yes Omaha. If that doesn't work, move them to San Juan. Every one of those cities has a nice ring to it with Rays.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70565 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 9:55 am to
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as well as "the actual level of commitment" from the public side


Fund it yourself if you want a new stadium. Stop robbing the taxpayers to subsidize a billionaire's vanity project.

If you can't afford to build a stadium, you can't afford to own a team.
Posted by lsutigers1992
Member since Mar 2006
25317 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 10:02 am to
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Florida is the transplant problem on steroids with a ton of retirees from NL/AL East markets.



That's why the Rays won't leave. The Yankees like getting half a dozen extra "home games."
Posted by RedPop4
Santiago de Compostela
Member since Jan 2005
14424 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 10:05 am to
Red Sox, as well.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
75275 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 10:05 am to
Would the Jacksonville area have been better than Tampa area for the team when they were added as an expansion team?
Posted by TigernLargo
Largo, Fl
Member since Jan 2008
59 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 10:11 am to
both the Yankee's and the Red Sox get that extra home game feeling - with several other teams (O's, Jays) not too far behind.

Games at the Trop aren't the greatest, but they aren't the worst either, especially after bridging the walkway around the outfield..

Once the announcement was made of the pending move to Ybor, many fans living in Pinellas won't make the 20+ mile drive to a run down area of Tampa...
Posted by CHEEEEESE
Pres. of the Mike Lowery Fan Club
Member since May 2006
10476 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 10:17 am to
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but they aren't the worst either,


Yes they are. Easily the worst stadium in baseball. Lighting is terrible, concourse is rundown and the catwalk interferes with balls in play
Posted by lsutigers1992
Member since Mar 2006
25317 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 10:18 am to
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Would the Jacksonville area have been better than Tampa area for the team when they were added as an expansion team?



Tampa is the Yankees' spring home. That has a lot to do with it.
Posted by Tigeralum2008
Yankees Fan
Member since Apr 2012
17152 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 10:24 am to
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They gutted both teams shortly after winning them and replaced them with glorified AAA teams.



And why do you think they gutted them? Because the fans were not showing up in numbers despite having a good product on the field.
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