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re: Greatest Animated Movie of All-Time Tournament!! ROUND OF 64 ***voting closed***

Posted on 12/11/18 at 7:11 pm to
Posted by Tigris
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Member since Jul 2005
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 7:11 pm to
quote:

People are letting nostalgia affect their lens.


And lots of others are using recent movie bias affect theirs.
Posted by rich4pres
Knoxville
Member since Dec 2016
9830 posts
Posted on 12/11/18 at 7:15 pm to
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Honestly, seeing the number of people who have voted Fantasia over Coraline and Fox and the Hound over Ratatouille makes me lose all faith in the M/TV board. There's no way you could have seen Fox and the Hound in the last 20 years and vote it over a top 2-3 Pixar movie, just no way.


Fox and the Hound is my favorite animated movie of all time.
Posted by GeauxBayouBengals
Member since Nov 2003
6156 posts
Posted on 12/11/18 at 9:21 pm to
ANTARCTIC FROZEN NUTS REGION

1) Incredibles
16) Brave

8) Shrek
9) Heavy Metal

5) Robin Hood
12) Fantastic Mr. Fox

4) Akira
13) Tangled


6) Moana
11) How the Grinch Stole Christmas

3) Toy Story 3
14) An American Tale

7) Fantasia
10) Coraline

2) Kubo and the Two Strings
15) Grave of Fireflies




GHETTO AFRICAN JUNGLE REGION

1) Beauty and the Beast
16) Hercules

8) Watership Down
9) Mulan

5) The Iron Giant
12) The Hunchback of Notre Dame

4) Finding Nemo
13) Emperors New Groove


6) Ratatouille
11) The Fox and the Hound

3) Toy Story 2
14) Isle of Dogs

7) Cinderella
10) The Lego Movie

2) Inside Out
15) Rudolph the Red Nose Reindeer




AUSTRALIAN FOSTERS BEER REGION

1) Lion King
16) Transformers

8) Wreck-It-Ralph
9) Batman: The Mask of Phantasm

5) The Jungle Book
12) Snow White

4) Aladdin
13) South Park: BLU


6) Sleeping Beauty
11) Big Hero 6

3) Coco
14) Charlotte’s Webb

7) 9
10) The Secret of Nihm

2) Nightmare Before Christmas
15) Lady and the Tramp





ASIAN GENERAL TSO'S CHICKEN REGION

1) Toy Story
16) Little Mermaid

8) Ghost in the Shell
9) Despicable Me

5) Spirited Away
12) The Brave Little Toaster

4) Monsters Inc.
13) Monsters University


6) Princess Mononoke
11) The Sword and the Stone

3) WALL-E
14) Rango

7) The Land Before Time
10) Pinocchio

2) Up
15) Yellow Submarine
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
69197 posts
Posted on 12/11/18 at 9:26 pm to
ANTARCTIC FROZEN NUTS REGION

1) Incredibles
16) Brave

8) Shrek
9) Heavy Metal

5) Robin Hood
12) Fantastic Mr. Fox

4) Akira
13) Tangled


6) Moana
11) How the Grinch Stole Christmas

3) Toy Story 3
14) An American Tale
BOOO this bracket. TS3 is better, but the Fivel was the movie of my childhood.

7) Fantasia
10) Coraline




GHETTO AFRICAN JUNGLE REGION

1) Beauty and the Beast
16) Hercules

8) Watership Down
9) Mulan

5) The Iron Giant
12) The Hunchback of Notre Dame

4) Finding Nemo
13) Emperors New Groove


6) Ratatouille
11) The Fox and the Hound

3) Toy Story 2
14) Isle of Dogs

7) Cinderella
10) The Lego Movie

2) Inside Out
15) Rudolph the Red Nose Reindeer




AUSTRALIAN FOSTERS BEER REGION

1) Lion King
16) Transformers

8) Wreck-It-Ralph
9) Batman: The Mask of Phantasm

5) The Jungle Book
12) Snow White

4) Aladdin
13) South Park: BLU


6) Sleeping Beauty
11) Big Hero 6

3) Coco
14) Charlotte’s Webb

7) 9
10) The Secret of Nihm

2) Nightmare Before Christmas
15) Lady and the Tramp





ASIAN GENERAL TSO'S CHICKEN REGION

1) Toy Story
16) Little Mermaid

8) Ghost in the Shell
9) Despicable Me



4) Monsters Inc.
13) Monsters University


6) Princess Mononoke
11) The Sword and the Stone

3) WALL-E
14) Rango

7) The Land Before Time
10) Pinocchio

2) Up
15) Yellow Submarine
This post was edited on 12/12/18 at 12:27 am
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
69197 posts
Posted on 12/11/18 at 9:28 pm to
Having young girls, I watch a shite load of cartoons. I have seen Fox and the hound more than twice in the last five years. I have seen the sequel twice in the last 6-7.
Yes it was a sentimental vote. Rat is a great movie. Though neither will win it all so I picked MY favorite. I abstained from American Tale v TS3 for same reason.

Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
69197 posts
Posted on 12/11/18 at 9:29 pm to
I dislike Fantasia and Coraline. I have no need to watch either. Fantasia is at least something different.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
109101 posts
Posted on 12/11/18 at 9:37 pm to
Napoleon, you’re breaking my balls here. Outside of the Aristocats, the Rescuers (the sequel is far superior), and the Black Cauldron, The Sword in the Stone is the most forgetable animated Disney film of the 1900s. I don’t hear anyone ever bringing up this movie.

I just don’t see how anyone can possibly defend The Sword in the Stone being a better movie than Princess Mononoke. Maybe if you’re under 10, but Mononoke is a fricking masterpiece. It’s at worst in the Top 5 greatest animated films ever made. Granted Princess Mononoke isn’t as funny (although Jigo has some great dark humor) and isn’t for the kiddies, but it has it beat in every other regard. I bet a very sizable portion of the people voting for Sword in the Stone have never seen Mononoke and are just blindly voting for it since they’ve seen it.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
69197 posts
Posted on 12/11/18 at 9:37 pm to
I feel "greatest" is an emotional opinion. People get different emotional responses from movies and nostalgia and historical importance should matter. If not, then you could cut out every non Pixar movie. In fact I'll be shocked if a non Pixar movie wins.

Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
69197 posts
Posted on 12/11/18 at 9:42 pm to
real answer. i just don't like Japanese animation.
Akira is the only Anime I ever really wanted to see again.

I saw Monoke once and don't remember it much. Like Ponyo.

It may be a better movie, but this is all personal opinions.

Sword in the Stone is great. Sure the animation doesn't hold up, but it was the first introduction to Arthurian Legend to most of us.
Posted by GeauxBayouBengals
Member since Nov 2003
6156 posts
Posted on 12/11/18 at 9:42 pm to
Lots of votes for The Brave Little Toaster over Spirited Away. I find it hard to believe people voting this way have seen Spirited Away which is a masterpiece. Honestly, if Brave Little Toaster wins that match, you can flush this whole contest.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
109101 posts
Posted on 12/11/18 at 9:43 pm to
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People get different emotional responses from movies and nostalgia and historical importance should matter.


Princess Mononoke changed animation and film way more than The Sword in the Stone. You can make a great argument for Spirited Away being better and more important, but 50 years from now, no one will be watching the Sword in the Stone (hell I don’t think they do now). Princess Mononoke or Spirited Away or many other Disney and Pixar classics are sticking around. Nostalgia is way too subjective. No one would give a frick about the Sword in the Stone if it was released today, but audiences would still be floored by Mononoke.
This post was edited on 12/11/18 at 10:25 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
109101 posts
Posted on 12/11/18 at 9:45 pm to
quote:

Lots of votes for The Brave Little Toaster over Spirited Away. I find it hard to believe people voting this way have seen Spirited Away which is a masterpiece. Honestly, if Brave Little Toaster wins that match, you can flush this whole contest.


Exactly, but at least the Brave Little Toaster is actually really good. The Sword in the Stone is just mediocrity and people are blinded by nostalgia and in all likelihood have never seen Miyazaki’s work. Both of those films are Top 5 in animated history as far as I’m concerned. If neither Mononoke or Spirited Away make it on to the next round, this poll is a joke.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
69197 posts
Posted on 12/11/18 at 9:49 pm to
I can rattle off quite a few Disney movies from the 1900s that are much more forgettable.


Make Mine Music
Fun and Fancy Free
The Great Mouse Detective
(whose really seen the Adventures of Icahbod and Mr Toad?)

I loved Ducktales, anyone remember the movie? I don't.

Or the Doug movie?

I liked the Goofy movie, but I doubt it's ever brought up.




Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
69197 posts
Posted on 12/11/18 at 9:50 pm to
How come people who really like Anime get so upset about someone not voting for "their" movie.

Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
109101 posts
Posted on 12/11/18 at 9:53 pm to
quote:

Make Mine Music
Fun and Fancy Free


Those don’t really count.

quote:

The Great Mouse Detective


That’s way more memorable. Rattigan was a fantastic villain. The clock tower scene, holy shite that was awesome. Really all I have to say is Vincent Price on why the movie is better, and that ends the conversation.

quote:

(whose really seen the Adventures of Icahbod and Mr Toad?)


Ok I’ll give you that one.

quote:

I loved Ducktales, anyone remember the movie? I don't.

Or the Doug movie?

I liked the Goofy movie, but I doubt it's ever brought up.


Those aren’t under the same Disney banner. It’s like saying Planes is Pixar.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
109101 posts
Posted on 12/11/18 at 9:59 pm to
quote:

How come people who really like Anime get so upset about someone not voting for "their" movie.



Because the rules are you have to have seen both films. I’m willing to bet that maybe two posters that have voted against Mononoke or Spirited Away have seen them. It’s an absolute joke to compare mediocrity that can be edited down 25 minutes over a film that carefully considers each frame that goes into the film and none of it can be removed.

The Sword in the Stone are a bunch of loosely related stories that could be anything and hardly move the plot forward whatsoever. Every move Ashitaka and the characters take in the film is deliberate, moves the plot forward, and is always looking to establish the characters at all times. What do we learn about any of these characters in the Sword in the Stone? They aren’t developed and don’t feel like real people. All Arthur has to do is pull the god damn sword out and everyone is pretty much the exact same as the start of the story. That is weak storytelling.

Anyone who has seen PM would be insulted that these two movies are being rationally compared.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36140 posts
Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:12 pm to
ANTARCTIC FROZEN NUTS REGION

1) Incredibles
16) Brave

8) Shrek
9) Heavy Metal

5) Robin Hood
12) Fantastic Mr. Fox

4) Akira
13) Tangled

6) Moana
11) How the Grinch Stole Christmas

3) Toy Story 3
14) An American Tale

7) Fantasia
10) Coraline

2) Kubo and the Two Strings
15) Grave of Fireflies

GHETTO AFRICAN JUNGLE REGION

1) Beauty and the Beast
16) Hercules

8) Watership Down
9) Mulan

5) The Iron Giant
12) The Hunchback of Notre Dame

4) Finding Nemo
13) Emperors New Groove

6) Ratatouille
11) The Fox and the Hound

3) Toy Story 2
14) Isle of Dogs

7) Cinderella
10) The Lego Movie

2) Inside Out
15) Rudolph the Red Nose Reindeer

AUSTRALIAN FOSTERS BEER REGION

1) Lion King
16) Transformers

8) Wreck-It-Ralph
9) Batman: The Mask of Phantasm

5) The Jungle Book
12) Snow White

4) Aladdin
13) South Park: BLU


6) Sleeping Beauty
11) Big Hero 6

3) Coco
14) Charlotte’s Webb

7) 9
10) The Secret of Nihm

2) Nightmare Before Christmas
15) Lady and the Tramp

ASIAN GENERAL TSO'S CHICKEN REGION

1) Toy Story
16) Little Mermaid

8) Ghost in the Shell
9) Despicable Me

5) Spirited Away
12) The Brave Little Toaster

4) Monsters Inc.
13) Monsters University

6) Princess Mononoke
11) The Sword and the Stone

3) WALL-E
14) Rango

7) The Land Before Time
10) Pinocchio

2) Up
15) Yellow Submarine
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
109101 posts
Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:12 pm to
quote:

I saw Monoke once and don't remember it much. Like Ponyo.


And to be fair, I don’t like Ponyo either. It’s great to look at, but the story is creepy as frick with two 5 year olds falling in love. That is just fricked up. 5 year olds don’t know how to wipe their own arse nevertheless recognize their soul mate. Should have at least aged up the characters a few years.
This post was edited on 12/11/18 at 10:14 pm
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50731 posts
Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:15 pm to
quote:

ANTARCTIC FROZEN NUTS REGION

1) Incredibles
16) Brave

8) Shrek
9) Heavy Metal

5) Robin Hood
12) Fantastic Mr. Fox

4) Akira
13) Tangled


6) Moana
11) How the Grinch Stole Christmas

3) Toy Story 3
14) An American Tale

7) Fantasia
10) Coraline

2) Kubo and the Two Strings
15) Grave of Fireflies




GHETTO AFRICAN JUNGLE REGION

1) Beauty and the Beast
16) Hercules

8) Watership Down
9) Mulan

5) The Iron Giant
12) The Hunchback of Notre Dame

4) Finding Nemo
13) Emperors New Groove


6) Ratatouille
11) The Fox and the Hound

3) Toy Story 2
14) Isle of Dogs

7) Cinderella
10) The Lego Movie

2) Inside Out
15) Rudolph the Red Nose Reindeer




AUSTRALIAN FOSTERS BEER REGION

1) Lion King
16) Transformers

8) Wreck-It-Ralph
9) Batman: The Mask of Phantasm

5) The Jungle Book
12) Snow White

4) Aladdin
13) South Park: BLU


6) Sleeping Beauty
11) Big Hero 6

3) Coco
14) Charlotte’s Webb

7) 9
10) The Secret of Nihm

2) Nightmare Before Christmas
15) Lady and the Tramp





ASIAN GENERAL TSO'S CHICKEN REGION

1) Toy Story
16) Little Mermaid

8) Ghost in the Shell
9) Despicable Me

5) Spirited Away
12) The Brave Little Toaster

4) Monsters Inc.
13) Monsters University


6) Princess Mononoke
11) The Sword and the Stone

3) WALL-E
14) Rango

7) The Land Before Time
10) Pinocchio

2) Up
15) Yellow Submarine
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
109101 posts
Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:21 pm to
quote:

imjustafatkid


There’s no fricking way you’ve ever watched any Japanese Animation save for maybe Dragonball Z. Please rescend the votes for Tangled, Kubo and the Two Strings, Despicable Me, The Brave Little Toaster, and the Sword in the Stone. Thanks.
This post was edited on 12/11/18 at 10:23 pm
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