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re: THREE defensive AA and 4th and Aranda struggled!!

Posted on 12/7/18 at 12:56 pm to
Posted by rbdallas
Dallas, TX
Member since Nov 2007
10340 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 12:56 pm to
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I think DA is a great coach. I just don't believe he is the god some make him out to be. We have had better defenses without him as our DC and this year I really expected the defense to be one of our best ever...it wasn't. He did not earn top DC pay this year.


his 3 man upfront leaves us vulnerable.
That cost us the ND game last year.
and I am sure more.
Posted by mdtiger1
Great Northwest Louisiana
Member since Jan 2005
1434 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 12:57 pm to
Chaisson is good but more of an edge rusher than a run stopper. ONE MAN shouldn't be the answer either!
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
67459 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 12:58 pm to
can anyone explain to me how a 3 man front with a Buck OLB leaves us anymore vulnerable than a 4 man front with two DEs that are essentially the same players who are now out Buck LB?
Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
Member since Nov 2007
99999 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 1:01 pm to
This type of post doesn’t fit the narrative, but I agree that our defense underperformed this year in a couple of big game situations. They were also fantastic for the majority of the year.

I think we were the 10th ranked defense in the country in terms of efficiency. Total defense wasn’t as good as that. Either way, I think everyone agrees Aranda is a great defensive coordinator, but he might not quite have lived up to his paycheck this year, considering the talent we had on defense.

I also think everyone agrees that Aranda is the last name on the list when you think of the problems with LSU football.
Posted by eugene1928LSU
Shreveport, La
Member since Oct 2013
2790 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 1:03 pm to
Yes it would be like chavis
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
67459 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 1:04 pm to
Don’t sell edge rushers short

Look how valuable they are in the NFL.

Not having one is an issue.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
69203 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 1:06 pm to
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Just another person that expects the defense to win every game for ya. The fact that we count on our defense to hold everybody below 21 to win is the major problem


Actually they expect him to hold everyone to zero. Dude was getting shade for the Bama game.
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
62417 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 1:09 pm to
All 3 All Americans were in the game when A&M was facing 4th and 18 from their own 39 yard line with 26 seconds left and 0 timeouts.

Anyone want to explain away the last 3 plays that went for 20, 22, and 19 yards for a td?
Posted by TigerJeff
the Emerald Coast
Member since Oct 2006
16356 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 1:16 pm to
Guess that falls on the HC, right chief? The HC decides his staff. O fought tooth and nail to retain Aranda. So, if you don't like Aranda, you know who to blame, huh?
Posted by BayouBengal99
Crowley
Member since Oct 2007
9125 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 1:20 pm to
You morons act like Aranda is running the program LMAO. This program would be perfectly fine without Aranda and I'm certain of that. Of course he's a great DC and one of the best in the country BUT we could find another DC. There is a number of great guys out there who are up and comers and who are solidified already. We'd be fine.

It also shows you how important the LOS is to one side or the other. So everyone harping on Steve E for his offense need to look no further than Aranda and his defense to see how important the LOS is to an offense or a defense.

Give Steve E an OL and better RBs I'll bet his offense performs at a much better level.
This post was edited on 12/7/18 at 1:23 pm
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
7027 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 1:32 pm to
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he did not earn top DC pay this year.


Don't whine to us about it. Take it up with the idiot handing out raises.

And for what it's worth, if Aranda didn't earn his pay this year, there's not a single fricking coach on this staff that earned his pay this year.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
39990 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 1:37 pm to
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You morons act like Aranda is running the program LMAO.

Nope, but let's not act like his defense wasn't carrying water for the offense all year. Again.
quote:

This program would be perfectly fine without Aranda and I'm certain of that. Of course he's a great DC and one of the best in the country BUT we could find another DC. There is a number of great guys out there who are up and comers and who are solidified already. We'd be fine.

Not sure why you're pretending that is a foregone conclusion given O's track record on hiring assistants. Obviously yes we COULD hire another good or great DC like Aranda but O hasn't exactly blown it out of the water in this department either here or at Ole Miss.
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Give Steve E an OL and better RBs I'll bet his offense performs at a much better level.


We'll find out after O (for the 2nd year in a row) fixes all our problems in the trenches this offseason.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37669 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 1:59 pm to
Where the hell is all this Aranda hate coming from?
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
65489 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 2:11 pm to
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We had trouble stopping the run all year
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THREE defensive AA

How many were defensive linemen?
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and getting off the field in down and (long) distance.

All year? Or in the 4th quarter of the A&M game?
Posted by des4271
Member since Oct 2014
4034 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 2:17 pm to
Chavis for the most part had a good defense and called good plays until he got to third down and then he was absolute dog shite.
Posted by Will2nd
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2009
3947 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 2:21 pm to
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Anyone want to explain away the last 3 plays that went for 20, 22, and 19 yards for a td?


Because they threw the ball at the guys who were not All-Americans?
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
62417 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 2:25 pm to
We should try that approach
Posted by Tiger Tracker
Austin,TX
Member since Nov 2015
7232 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 2:47 pm to
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Thought Aranda was mediocre at best this season,


Before the ATM game with 7 OTs we didn't have an opponent (including Bama) that put 30 on us. Yet we still couldn't beat UF or put up one point against Bama. Still some of you sit here and act like when you're Offense is in the 70s in ppg and your D is in the top 10 it's the defenses fault for being mediocre. I swear you can't make this shite up.

Posted by Tiger Tracker
Austin,TX
Member since Nov 2015
7232 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 2:50 pm to
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BUT we could find another DC. There is a number of great guys out there who are up and comers and who are solidified already


Who do you think O will hire? Who has he put on staff so far that inspires great confidence that he will make the best hire at DC?
Posted by des4271
Member since Oct 2014
4034 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 2:52 pm to
The only thing I'll be critical of aranda about is, he wasn't aggressive enough times on third down. This also may have been because he didn't totally trust nickel,dime and safety opposite delpit to cover guys and to commit to blitzing more people.
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