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re: California officially becomes first in nation mandating solar power for new homes
Posted on 12/6/18 at 7:38 pm to tiggerthetooth
Posted on 12/6/18 at 7:38 pm to tiggerthetooth
quote:Thats what the market is for. I’ll pay for fairy dust over coal if it’s cheaper and more effective. We need to stop regulation the energy sector.
So we should strangle technology and force only chosen technologies down our throats for the sake of something that might not happen for hundreds of years?
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Posted on 12/6/18 at 7:45 pm to Clames
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They burn hotter than jet fuel
Hot enough to melt steel beams?
Posted on 12/6/18 at 7:52 pm to hubreb
Solar panels and batteries are exponentially changing, improving every year.
Anything ya put on a roof will be obsolete, out of date in 2 years
Anything ya put on a roof will be obsolete, out of date in 2 years
This post was edited on 12/6/18 at 7:53 pm
Posted on 12/6/18 at 7:54 pm to RLDSC FAN
I will say that here in Texas it seems like all this new construction should have solar panels. We have like 350 sunny days per year.
Posted on 12/6/18 at 7:56 pm to RLDSC FAN
I am all for government telling us how to live our lives
Moar of that please
Moar of that please
Posted on 12/6/18 at 8:05 pm to Drop4Loss
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Solar panels and batteries are exponentially changing, improving every year.
Not really, especially batteries. Cell phones are still using the same batteries they were using 10 years ago. Lithium ion. They've only improved the power consumed in the phone.
If there was a truly superior battery technology, the smartphone industry would almost have to be the first to move on using it.
Posted on 12/6/18 at 8:17 pm to RLDSC FAN
Well this is guaranteed to be a disaster but more power to California. You won't catch me ever living out there
Posted on 12/6/18 at 8:20 pm to GetCocky11
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Good: Renewable resource, you aren't as dependent on our antiquated power infrastructure
This will further stress that infrastructure.
Posted on 12/6/18 at 8:26 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Short term, I can see the reasons to oppose it, of course, but the combustible engine is going to be obsolete one day, and if California wants to be first in solar, I’m fine with them doing it while the rest of us take notes on how to do it better.
Posted on 12/6/18 at 8:27 pm to noonan
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solar panels look ugly
The solar tiles look pretty good, IMO.
Personally, I think every new home over a predetermined square footage should be required. If someone can afford a 5000 sq ft home, they can afford solar.
Posted on 12/6/18 at 8:28 pm to Lima Whiskey
This won’t generate enough electricity to meaningfully displace conventional sources.
Californians will be able to feel good about themselves though, while they continue to get their energy from out or state, and effectively outsource the pollution that comes with generating it.
Californians will be able to feel good about themselves though, while they continue to get their energy from out or state, and effectively outsource the pollution that comes with generating it.
Posted on 12/6/18 at 8:33 pm to dbbuilder79
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If someone can afford a 5000 sq ft home, they can afford solar.
What gives you the right to tell them what to do?
Posted on 12/6/18 at 8:33 pm to HammerheadLincoln
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With improved battery technology
You’re still gonna need lead and you’re still gonna have to aquire all the stuff batteries are made of.
Guess how they do that?
And you’re still gonna need something to make the casings from. Know what that is? Plastic.
Where does plastic come from?
Posted on 12/6/18 at 8:37 pm to dbbuilder79
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The solar tiles look pretty good, IMO.
And how do they perform during hurricanes or rainy summer days when its 90 degrees outside but cloudy?
Posted on 12/6/18 at 8:37 pm to dbbuilder79
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Personally, I think every new home over a predetermined square footage should be required. If someone can afford a 5000 sq ft home, they can afford solar.
I think your house should be required to have a maximum of one bathroom. You are clearly using too much water.
Posted on 12/6/18 at 8:41 pm to dbbuilder79
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Personally, I think every new home over a predetermined square footage should be required.
Statements like this make our founding fathers roll in their grave. If they could come to today and see what’s become of the constitutional republic of states they gave us now, they’d have problably thrown the Declaration of Independence in the fire and sent word to King George we wanted back in.
Posted on 12/6/18 at 8:41 pm to upgrayedd
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upgrayedd
Neither would Louisiana. I will never understand the elitism of Louisiana when by qualitative measures it is last or close to it. And even states of similar demographics makeup do better, that's just a tired excuse.
Posted on 12/6/18 at 8:43 pm to tiggerthetooth
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during hurricanes or rainy summer days when its 90 degrees outside but cloudy?
They wouldn't be ideal for y'all in the south, but for the southwest, Midwest, and areas that have sun for more than 200 days of the year, it would be a HUGE benefit to our power grid out here.
Posted on 12/6/18 at 8:47 pm to tiggerthetooth
Right now a gallon of gasoline has between 50 and 130 times the stored energy of lithium polymer batteries on a per unit mass basis. The energy densities of the best commercially available batteries are not even as good as wood and we've got morons that think we can already replace fossil fuels as an energy source today with current solar/wind/renewables/battery technology. 
Posted on 12/6/18 at 8:47 pm to dbbuilder79
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Personally, I think every new home over a predetermined square footage should be required. If someone can afford a 5000 sq ft home, they can afford solar.
So polar panels in Cal are subsidized and cost for putting them in is guaranteed by local and state government taxes,..look at ygrene.com...these guys lend money to people putting in panels in Cal and Fla...they are then taxed by gov and a portion pays the lender, no default risk...then those lines are securitized and guy in investment banking make lots of money off these deals
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