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Urban Meyer: A Winner with No integrity or Control of his Programs!
Posted on 12/5/18 at 8:55 am
Posted on 12/5/18 at 8:55 am
The man left Florida in shambles, but instead of staying around and fixing the problems he created, he says he's resigning for health issues. At OSU, he allows an assistant coach to get away with domestic violence for years. He gets suspended, and was possibly going to be fired. Maybe to avoid being fired with cause, he agreed to resign/retire at the end of the season to salvage his reputation. But again at his press conference he's leaving due to health reasons, but leaves open the door to coaching again. Any school president and AD would be a fool to hire this clown ever again. I don't like Saban, but I do respect him. He runs a tight ship, and everyone knows he's the leader. He's a man with Integrity.
Posted on 12/5/18 at 8:58 am to LSUgrad1998
Urban Meyer is a scum bag. I can’t believe some of you want him as your head coach.
Posted on 12/5/18 at 8:58 am to LSUgrad1998
Way to stay on topic in the TIGER rant.
Posted on 12/5/18 at 9:00 am to LSUgrad1998
I wouldn't sing Saban's praises too loudly when it comes to integrity.
Every year at the combine, it's been uncovered that Bama players failed multiple drug tests, but were never suspended and dismissed (ex. Tim Williams). Also, this is the same Saban that knowingly signed the NT that was dismissed from Georgia for domestic violence. He'll play you if you're good enough, period.
Every year at the combine, it's been uncovered that Bama players failed multiple drug tests, but were never suspended and dismissed (ex. Tim Williams). Also, this is the same Saban that knowingly signed the NT that was dismissed from Georgia for domestic violence. He'll play you if you're good enough, period.
This post was edited on 12/5/18 at 9:01 am
Posted on 12/5/18 at 9:02 am to Breauxfessor
He's been mentioned here as a possible future hire. Is that what Tiger fans really want?
Posted on 12/5/18 at 9:05 am to LSUgrad1998
Think what you want but he’s an incredible coach. To say he not a man of integrity is a simple opinion to form but it just means to allowed the media to develop a narrative for you to buy into. The evidence is clear he tried to help a friend out and give him time to get his life straight. It was a gamble that didn’t pan out but not one that was unreasonable at the time. It’s not like the told the guy to keep beating his wife.
All these threads about how bad he is and we should never want him are just O pumpers. You do yourself nor O any good. O is our coach and he’s not going anywhere. Has he improved it from Miles? Maybe maybe not. That’s mostly to be determined. If he doesn’t and 3 years from now we move on and hire UM we’d be complete idiots not to consider it.
All these threads about how bad he is and we should never want him are just O pumpers. You do yourself nor O any good. O is our coach and he’s not going anywhere. Has he improved it from Miles? Maybe maybe not. That’s mostly to be determined. If he doesn’t and 3 years from now we move on and hire UM we’d be complete idiots not to consider it.
Posted on 12/5/18 at 9:05 am to husslemane
This is a rough and tough business. There are a few coaches out there with integrity. Most we would describe as losers. Not going to bad mouth a dude that was successful in this business, just c’mon. The virtue signaling needs to stop here, this is College football...
Posted on 12/5/18 at 9:09 am to tigereye58
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25 players were charged or arrested for a total 31 crimes during Meyer's six years at Florida, and that doesn't include tight end Aaron Hernandez, who is now a convicted murderer and is being probed for his role in a 2007 shooting in Gainesville during his freshman year.
Only six of those players were kicked off the team, and around half received a one-game suspension or were punished "internally."
25 players were charged or arrested for a total 31 crimes during Meyer's six years at Florida, and that doesn't include tight end Aaron Hernandez, who is now a convicted murderer and is being probed for his role in a 2007 shooting in Gainesville during his freshman year.
Only six of those players were kicked off the team, and around half received a one-game suspension or were punished "internally."
This post was edited on 12/5/18 at 9:10 am
Posted on 12/5/18 at 9:12 am to conman
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Urban Meyer is a scum bag. I can’t believe some of you want him as your head coach
Urban Meyer is the 2nd best coach in college football and had Ohio State in the playoffs almost every year. I would take him here in a heartbeat and anyone who wouldn’t is a complete moron, I really don’t care if our coach is a “good ole baw”, Les Miles was a great guy and Ed Orgeron is likable and the media still rips them apart and makes fun of them relentlessly. I’d rather have a winner who’s going to be scrutinized than a loser who’s going to be scrutinized anyway
Posted on 12/5/18 at 9:18 am to CamdenTiger
I actually agree with you. My point was that the OP says that Meyer has no integrity (which I'm not arguing for against), but turned around and praised Saban for his integrity (which again I'm not arguing for or against) when we all know of things like this that were swept under the rug under his watch. That's all I'm saying.
Cam & Hootie
Cam & Hootie
This post was edited on 12/5/18 at 9:19 am
Posted on 12/5/18 at 9:18 am to LSUgrad1998
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25 players were charged or arrested for a total 31 crimes during Meyer's six years at Florida, and that doesn't include tight end Aaron Hernandez, who is now a convicted murderer and is being probed for his role in a 2007 shooting in Gainesville during his freshman year. Only six of those players were kicked off the team, and around half received a one-game suspension or were punished "internally."
Once again. You’re determining his integrity based on other people’s actions. Maybe you could say he has poor judgement in selecting people but Miles allowed kids like Jeremy Hill to play. It worked out well for both. You guys think this stuff is so easy. Maybe he cares about the kid and his opportunity is the only chance this kid probably has? That would be a sign that he has high integrity. He’s never been caught cheating. His only weakness is he gives people a second chance.
Posted on 12/5/18 at 9:43 am to LSUgrad1998
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A Winner with No integrity
id rather hoist trophies. if the evil empire can play their shite, lets do the same.
Posted on 12/5/18 at 9:51 am to LSUgrad1998
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Aaron Hernandez, who is now a convicted murderer and is being probed for his role in a 2007 shooting in Gainesville during his freshman year.
Committed suicide in jail in 2017
Posted on 12/5/18 at 9:53 am to LSUgrad1998
He may coach again-but not in the SEC. He doesn’t want to coach against Saban.
Posted on 12/5/18 at 9:55 am to CamdenTiger
quote:yep, the list that has both winner and integrity boxes checked is very small. And most of them are retired.
This is a rough and tough business. There are a few coaches out there with integrity. Most we would describe as losers. Not going to bad mouth a dude that was successful in this business, just c’mon. The virtue signaling needs to stop here, this is College football...
Here's the thing about itegrity as it relates to winning:
Rarely does the lack of integrity show up until they fall short of the expectations of wins.
Funny how that happens. Just look at Freeze- he went from being a "good religious man that can beat Bama" to, well, being seen for what he really is.
The thing is, he didn't change. He still beat Bama. And he didn't lose integrity, only the information/truth regarding him as a person came to light. Nothing truly changed, except perception.
Me personally, the search for integrity is pointless in the current climate. Sure, you have to draw the line somewhere. But that bar should be low. This is a business now. Your 5*'s didn't come 'to play school'. Why should the coaches be any different. So draw that line carefully based on real world consequences (covering up rape vs. paying players) and leave optics out of it and insert winning there. Because if you win the conference, the media will cater to you and those optics will change or melt away.
Posted on 12/5/18 at 10:19 am to I20goon
He showed his true character when he was asked a direct question about Zach Smith at Big 10 Media Days and lied through his teeth. When caught he then issues a BS statement trying to explain away his lie. So when he speaks, how are we supposed to know when he is telling the truth? Wouldn't ever want him at LSU in any capacity.
Posted on 12/5/18 at 10:21 am to husslemane
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Bama players failed multiple drug tests
Any program that suspends players for weed is stupid. Saban is just ahead of his time in this aspect.
Posted on 12/5/18 at 10:22 am to tigereye58
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All these threads about how bad he is and we should never want him are just O pumpers
Wtf does someone’s opinion of Meyer have to do with Orgeron?
Y’all motherfrickers are delusional and obsessed with creating some sort of controversy... it’s frickin strange
Posted on 12/5/18 at 10:30 am to LSUgrad1998
From ESPNU radio, factoid on Urban Meyer coaching legacy.
Lots of wins, ONLY 6 coaches ever in 17 years as HC beat him 2X, and of them only 1 beat him 3X.
That 1.... Coach Les Miles.
BTW, Nick Saban is NOT on the short list of coaches to beast him 2X.
Lots of wins, ONLY 6 coaches ever in 17 years as HC beat him 2X, and of them only 1 beat him 3X.
That 1.... Coach Les Miles.
BTW, Nick Saban is NOT on the short list of coaches to beast him 2X.
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