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re: Running list of players skipping bowl games...

Posted on 12/3/18 at 1:44 pm to
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 12/3/18 at 1:44 pm to
I wouldn't put Bosa on a list of "players skipping bowl games," asterisk or not. He was injured with his earliest date for return was mid-December, and that's not even considering getting game-ready physically.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111300 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 1:44 pm to
Or less money.
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
29123 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 2:01 pm to
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Really, this is about how most bowls don't matter. They're easy to skip because they're essentially an exhibition for everyone but the players to make more money for the universities that have gave them an education for the past 3-4 years


FIFY'd your FIFY
Posted by blueboxer1119
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
8086 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 2:03 pm to
Can schools buy insurance policies for players that will protect against injury?

Legit question. Not sure if that's violating rules or not...
Posted by Coon
La 56 Southbound
Member since Feb 2005
18492 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 2:04 pm to
So if these guys are skipping bowl games, why not just start skipping games when your team was out of conference or national championship races? Hell, why play at all after you have a large enough sample size to get a draft grade/combine invite?
Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
40910 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 2:06 pm to
It will get my attention when a player from a team playing for a national championship does it. Bosa is the only one I can think of, but he's been out long before this was decided. So to me he doesn't count.
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
23168 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 2:07 pm to
I would put him on the list. He completely pulled out of school and is getting ready for the draft. Yes he was injured early and may not have made it back anyway, but he didn't even attempt to do so
Posted by PeteRose
Hall of Fame
Member since Aug 2014
16991 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 2:07 pm to
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So do the teams. It's only the fans who expect it to be personal


That’s why fans usually get the short end of the stick when a business decision needs to be made.
Posted by YeahYeah
Member since Jun 2016
2248 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 2:08 pm to
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Willis McGehee and Marcus Lattimore getting permanently fricked up didn’t help matters.

Willis McGahee played 10 years in the league
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
139892 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 2:12 pm to
Wasn’t Lattimore hurt in a regular season game the second time and still was drafted?

I know the first injury happened in October.
This post was edited on 12/3/18 at 2:15 pm
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
96902 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 2:16 pm to
It still cost him a ton of money by getting drafted in the late 1st by Baltimore rather than early in the first if he was healthy.

The difference in money between a top 5 pick and the 32nd pick is massive.
Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
60739 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 2:17 pm to
Not a big deal, but do they get the gift package the rest of the players get from the bowl? Just wondering.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111300 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 2:22 pm to
quote:

So if these guys are skipping bowl games, why not just start skipping games when your team was out of conference or national championship races? Hell, why play at all after you have a large enough sample size to get a draft grade/combine invite?

It'll be a logical progression, those 2 things are coming eventually.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
31468 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 2:23 pm to
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just get rid of the other bowls. frick it. You don't win enough to make the playoff, your season is over.


Add that to the list of worst ideas ever.

Players love it, fans love it, schools love it, TV networks love it...but a couple high profile guys skip them each year so burn it down?
Posted by Stud Bud
MS But travel all over the country
Member since Sep 2015
6958 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 2:26 pm to
I rather see players sit out vs. out on the field half-assing it because they don’t want to get hurt. Add in the fact it’s just a bowl to get extra practice. I want to see some new guys get some reps that we will need for next year.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73520 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 2:27 pm to
I think you should read up on it.

His family, his coaches, and his teammates all point to his injury, not "getting ready for the draft."
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
35048 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 2:29 pm to
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why not just start skipping games when your team was out of conference or national championship races? Hell, why play at all after you have a large enough sample size to get a draft grade/combine invite?


Good question, there's really no monetary incentive to do so.

We the fans sure as shite aren't going to foot the bill for the lost wages of something terrible happens.

And even if a bad injury doesn't happen, it's unnecessary risk and abuse to a valuable commodity.

It's unfortunate. We don't have to like it. But it makes perfect sense for players to do this.
Posted by StupidBinder
Jawja
Member since Oct 2017
6392 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 2:36 pm to
quote:

Can schools buy insurance policies for players that will protect against injury?

Legit question. Not sure if that's violating rules or not...



This really is the only answer to this.

I don’t agree with the rationale of skipping bowl games, but it’s the players’ choice to make. If the schools/NCAA want draft-eligible players to play in bowls, they need to provide assurances that doing so won’t cost the players money.
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
23168 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 2:41 pm to
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I think you should read up on it.



I've read up on it

quote:

his week John’s younger son, Nick, the reigning Big 10 Defensive Player of the Year, made the decision to withdraw from OSU, following September surgery to repair a core muscle injury, and his dad admitted that Jaylon Smith’s situation was in the back of his mind. “I just was so horrified for that kid,” Bosa said on Saturday. “I mean, I saw the play and it just it was awful. And it was not done purposely, that Joey got kicked out of that game, OK? He didn’t plan to get kicked out of the game. But when he did get kicked out of the game—and he was horribly disappointed—I gotta be honest with you, I was 110% relieved. “I mean I was sitting in the stands and everybody was sad and ‘Oh my god.’ And I just sat back thinking, this is a blessing, because it was just horrifying to see that kid get hurt. That wasn’t a topic that we discussed, but certainly it’ll always be in my mind. That was a horrible thing for that kid, money he’ll never make up.”


LINK

He would absolutely not be playing in the Rose Bowl. His dad said it was a blessing when Joey got kicked out of the Fiesta Bowl.

You think if Nick was healthy he's playing in the Rose? Based on his father's comments?

Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73520 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 2:48 pm to
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I've read up on it


You should read more. Read what the coaches and his teammates had to say about it, and just maybe what Nick himself had to say.

If you want to stick with what a grown man's dad had to say, there's also this.

Nick Bosa Is Leaving Ohio State Due to the Extent of His Injury, not the Extent of His Investment
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