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Posted on 11/25/18 at 4:57 pm to WeeWee
They tried to crack the security codes on those nukes. They gave them up only when that failed.
Posted on 11/25/18 at 4:59 pm to Eurocat
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It's called helping an ally not be invaded by a bully.
If only there was a union of European countries that could do that. Oh well. Let’s throw another trillion at a fight we shouldn’t be in.
Posted on 11/25/18 at 5:00 pm to Lima Whiskey
I have a business in Ukraine, they are good people and would be a good pro-USA democracy if Russia stopped effin with them.
Posted on 11/25/18 at 5:01 pm to Eurocat
So what do you want us to do - sink Russian ships, drop a bomb on Moscow?
Posted on 11/25/18 at 5:01 pm to Esquire
We should be in.
Posted on 11/25/18 at 5:02 pm to Eurocat
Grab a rifle and head to the front line then. The rest will be there soon
Posted on 11/25/18 at 5:02 pm to Burhead
Truck nutz time
Posted on 11/25/18 at 5:03 pm to Eurocat
Thousands of hot Ukrainian women are headed to the US in the near future.
Posted on 11/25/18 at 5:03 pm to Lima Whiskey
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So what do you want us to do - sink Russian ships, drop a bomb on Moscow?
Last time we sent a destroyer into the Black Sea and it made a port call in Odessa and Russia stopped its aggressive action.
Posted on 11/25/18 at 5:03 pm to Eurocat
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We should be in.
Feel free to buy a ticket to Kiev and start fighting alongside the Ukrainians. Or were you not referring to yourself when you used ‘we’?
Posted on 11/25/18 at 5:04 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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We did what a civilized world does, we enacted sanctions then and should enact more sanctions. The world is fed up with pootin and his bullshite (except that fricktard trump). This will be interesting to see how bone spurs fricks this up.
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We did what a civilized world does, we enacted sanctions then and should enact more sanctions. The world is fed up with pootin and his bullshite (except that fricktard trump). This will be interesting to see how bone spurs fricks this up.
Posted on 11/25/18 at 5:06 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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I highly doubt Ukraine is stupid enough to declare war against Russia. None of the Europeans are going to come to their aid in any meaningful manner. They’ll use this as leverage to get more arms deals from the US and Europeans though.
They already have that. The Trump admins said last year it was open to more arms sales to Ukraine including atleast 2 and possible more OHP frigates. Ukraine got more money from the IMF and EU last week. So like I said cancel the arms sales to SA and sale them to Ukraine. Win-win for everyone not named Putin.
Posted on 11/25/18 at 5:07 pm to WeeWee
Link to this theory, not saying that the ship didn't show up in Odessa, but that didn't cause Russia to halt its offensive.
Posted on 11/25/18 at 5:10 pm to KoachKletus
quote:Lot of good they did. Russia kept Assad in power and still occupies a large portion of the Ukraine.
We did what a civilized world does, we enacted sanctions
quote:See above
and should enact more sanctions.
quote:The world is free to go and fight Russia. I won’t stop them. Not that any of the European militaries could handle Russia
The world is fed up with pootin and his bullshite (except that fricktard trump).
Posted on 11/25/18 at 5:11 pm to Eurocat
West of the Dniepper, sure, they don’t like Russia. And that becomes more and more true the further west you go. East of the Dniepper, it’s very different. People are very pro Russian.
I’m on my phone, but google Party of Regions and election map.
It will show you how divide the country is, and how strong those divisions are. The Donbas voted for the Party of Regions at a ratio of 9 to 1.
Voters in western Ukraine supported hard line anti-Russian candidates at a similar rate.
The country would probably be more functional if they split it in two.
I’m on my phone, but google Party of Regions and election map.
It will show you how divide the country is, and how strong those divisions are. The Donbas voted for the Party of Regions at a ratio of 9 to 1.
Voters in western Ukraine supported hard line anti-Russian candidates at a similar rate.
The country would probably be more functional if they split it in two.
Posted on 11/25/18 at 5:13 pm to Nguyener
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Let me guess, the peace loving antiwar democrats want Trump to send our full military capabilities to Ukraine to start a war with Russia over something we should not at all be involved in and then spend the next 6 years bitching at him about the war they started?
and then if trump does send the military there to help the poli board trumpbots will support it because trump can do no wrong.
Posted on 11/25/18 at 5:14 pm to WeeWee
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Last time we sent a destroyer into the Black Sea and it made a port call in Odessa and Russia stopped its aggressive action.
For the record, I don’t think the two are connected.
But let’s say we do that, how long would it take us to get there? Could we do so before the crisis ended?
And what happens if the Russians simply ignore our presence?
Wouldn’t we be forced to escalate further?
Posted on 11/25/18 at 5:17 pm to WeeWee
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Win-win for everyone not named Putin.
All of our efforts to strengthen Ukraine make war more likely.
The Ukrainians are fools, and they will attack the Donbas.
Posted on 11/25/18 at 5:17 pm to Lima Whiskey
Then lets escalate.
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