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re: 57 clergy credibly accused of sexually abusing minors in NO area
Posted on 11/13/18 at 8:39 am to Zephyrius
Posted on 11/13/18 at 8:39 am to Zephyrius
Where did 2.5% of all priests during that time period stat come from? That means there was 2,280 Catholic Priests in the NOLA archdiocese.. Seems like a lot, but may be right. I know the Spotlight investigation found it was more like 7%.
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Posted on 11/13/18 at 8:54 am to mailman
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So its time we less these baws get married
The majority of sexual assaults are committed by married and divorced adults. Only about a third are committed by adults that have never married.
If you’re trying to address the fetish of pedophilia, I doubt enabling more marriage in the clergy would move the needle. People with that fetish are drawn to jobs that give them access to children. This unfortunately includes every youth oriented organization and organizations that carve out unique roles for children within their organization.
If you start allowing married and divorced adults to be priests, you’re just going to invite more married and divorced pedophiles in who were previously filtered out.
I honestly have not seen any data which suggests the Catholic Church has higher rates of sex abuse than any other religion. But if someone has this kind of data to share, I’d like to see it.
Posted on 11/13/18 at 9:04 am to Willie Stroker
I think most people's disgust with the Catholic Church in particular is that they had a worldwide sophisticated system to deal with these freaks that just moved them to another Parish so that they could continue abusing. You know, instead of turning them over to the police and making sure nobody else could be hurt.
Posted on 11/13/18 at 9:10 am to huntfish26
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Where did 2.5% of all priests during that time period stat come from? That means there was 2,280 Catholic Priests in the NOLA archdiocese.
https://www.arch-no.org/2018-report-on-clergy-abuse
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Of the 2,432 priests who have served in the Archdiocese of New Orleans since 1950, the review identified 57 who are included in this report. This entire list has been given to the Orleans Parish District Attorney and will be made available to any other District Attorney.
Posted on 11/13/18 at 9:18 am to huntfish26
Yeah, most of us share that sentiment. But few of us have all the facts. What we don’t know is what the parents of alleged victims wanted to happen. I’m not aware of a single incident where the Church attempted to prevent a parent from reporting a molestation to law enforcement, but I admit this is a topic I usually stumble across and don’t aggressively research.
If the Church is aware that they have a serial pedophile in their organization and they do nothing, they earn their criticism.
If the Church is aware that they have a serial pedophile in their organization and they do nothing, they earn their criticism.
Posted on 11/13/18 at 9:18 am to go ta hell ole miss
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Almost all of these were 50-60 years ago. People in the south get tired of hearing about Civil War stuff when race relations are infinitely better than in many of the sophisticated northern cities.
This intrigues me. Reading the list last week, and I extrapolated that most of the "active" times of abuse were from the 1960s until the early 1980s. The "why" is the thing. What are the reasons for this to have occurred SO OFTEN in those years. Looking back at the ones from 70 to 100 years ago, it seems those were dealt with rather quickly and decisively.
The same thing is happening now if you look at the "date abuse was reported" to "removal from ministry" it is, now rather quick after investigation. Remember that "the Church thinks in centuries" for the most part. It is a mindset. So even a removal after five years of reporting, is lightning quick for the Church.
What is it about the 60s, 70s, 80s that made this so egregious at that time?
This post was edited on 11/13/18 at 9:20 am
Posted on 11/13/18 at 9:33 am to huntfish26
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I think most people's disgust with the Catholic Church in particular is that they had a worldwide sophisticated system to deal with these freaks that just moved them to another Parish so that they could continue abusing. You know, instead of turning them over to the police and making sure nobody else could be hurt.
I agree. They acted as a haven for the abusers, sometimes providing a fresh, unsuspecting pool of potential victims. Wolves in sheep's clothing. Where is the accountability? The lists should include those who knew yet protected the abusers.
Posted on 11/13/18 at 10:53 am to Bestbank Tiger
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Looks like most of those guys were gone as soon as the diocese found out. So in New Orleans at least, there wasn't a Boston-like system of shuffling known predators to other parishes and covering up their crimes.
while Id love to agree with this, I dont think it is the case. Notice most of these are already deceased, or claims came out post-mortem, which leads me to believe, in AT LEAST a few of these cases, these were known to the Diocese at some point. They released nothing about allegations, or outcomes of investigations, which the member was not removed. That is what I'd like to see.
Posted on 11/16/18 at 11:10 am to LSUsmartass
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quote: arch diocese got out in front of the story (which every diocese should do)
What?
Help me out here. The Catholic Church should keep credible accusations secret ?
Posted on 11/16/18 at 11:21 am to crazycubes
People shouldn't be bagging on the Catholic Church as a bastion of institutional abuse unless they equally attack Public Schools as well.
There is an equally unsettling, unchecked, often un-punished "epidemic" of school teachers sexually assaulting kids but no wholesale condemnation of the Public School as an institution......hmmmmmm.....
There is an equally unsettling, unchecked, often un-punished "epidemic" of school teachers sexually assaulting kids but no wholesale condemnation of the Public School as an institution......hmmmmmm.....
Posted on 11/16/18 at 11:23 am to JonTigerFan11
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Former President of Jesuit High School on the list, guess his picture is coming off the wall
Which one?
Posted on 11/16/18 at 11:27 am to Epic Cajun
it’s clearly a gay problem. seminaries used to be full of gays, now you are not allowed to enter if you are gay. over 80% of the abuse was homosexual. Because of the culture today they don’t want to admit it and because some of these gays are still in power
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