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Why can’t Big 12 teams play defense?
Posted on 11/10/18 at 6:15 pm
Posted on 11/10/18 at 6:15 pm
Watching OU/OSU and it’s shocking how fundamentally poor these teams are on defense. I know they play fast and all but these guys do nothing more than arm tackle.
Posted on 11/10/18 at 6:16 pm to samson73103
They mainly recruit Texas and Texas high school football has gotten increasingly soft.
Posted on 11/10/18 at 6:17 pm to samson73103
Great question. The athletes are there, they just seem to only care about offense.
Posted on 11/10/18 at 6:30 pm to samson73103
they werent even trying to tackle in this game
Posted on 11/10/18 at 6:37 pm to samson73103
I find it interesting that Iowa State seems to field a reasonably effective defense.
If their offense continues to improve, they might be the counter example that causes yearly headaches for the rest of the conference.
If their offense continues to improve, they might be the counter example that causes yearly headaches for the rest of the conference.
Posted on 11/10/18 at 6:38 pm to RLDSC FAN
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The athletes are there
I don't think the Big 12 has great athletes at all especially on the defensive side of the ball. All of those schools recruit heavily from one state. There's only a finite number of top athletes to go around.
Posted on 11/10/18 at 6:42 pm to MikeyFL
ISU also grinds clock, which typically works for KSU as well, but they’re all-around bad this year.
Posted on 11/10/18 at 6:45 pm to Bench McElroy
It's true the Big 12 has by far the fewest NFL players and an embarrassing amount of defensive NFL players. Like G5 level when it comes to defensive talent.
The talent pool is so diluted when the entire conference recruits from 1 state.
Imagine if the entire SEC got over 50% of their rosters from Florida.
The talent pool is so diluted when the entire conference recruits from 1 state.
Imagine if the entire SEC got over 50% of their rosters from Florida.
Posted on 11/10/18 at 10:13 pm to BhamDore
the big 12 is a bad football conference, it is down to one team, it is the worst.
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Posted on 11/10/18 at 10:27 pm to samson73103
Two big 12 teams are top 25 in total defense....
So clearly their defense is good enough to stop the best offenses in the country
So clearly their defense is good enough to stop the best offenses in the country
Posted on 11/10/18 at 10:27 pm to samson73103
Basically the inverse reason for why LSU has such great defensive players and can never field a real offense.
Posted on 11/10/18 at 10:28 pm to highbooost
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the big 12 is a bad football conference, it is down to one team, it is the worst.
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Yea you don’t watch college football
ACC and Pac 12 are worse than the Big 12
Posted on 11/10/18 at 10:28 pm to Dire Wolf
quote:why people keep repeating this is so weird
and Texas high school football has gotten increasingly soft.
Posted on 11/10/18 at 10:29 pm to BhamDore
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It's true the Big 12 has by far the fewest NFL players and an embarrassing amount of defensive NFL players. Like G5 level when it comes to defensive talent.
The talent pool is so diluted when the entire conference recruits from 1 state.
Imagine if the entire SEC got over 50% of their rosters from Florida.
Just bc you make this up doesn’t mean it’s true
For starters the team tied for first hardly recruits TX
Posted on 11/10/18 at 10:36 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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Two big 12 teams are top 25 in total defense....
Coming into this weekend that's the fewest of all major conferences.
SEC: 5
ACC, Big Ten, CUSA, PAC 12: 3 each
Big 12, MWC: 2 each
American, Independents, MAC, Sun Belt: 1 each
Posted on 11/10/18 at 10:39 pm to samson73103
Some TX poster on here had a great theory. TX HS are so offensive focused that the better prospects move to that side of the ball.
Posted on 11/10/18 at 11:15 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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Coming into this weekend that's the fewest of all major conferences.
SEC: 5
ACC, Big Ten, CUSA, PAC 12: 3 each
Big 12, MWC: 2 each
American, Independents, MAC, Sun Belt: 1 each
All those conferences with more top 25 defensive teams have 12-14 teams
While the big 12 has 10
The ACC has 14 football teams and 3 in the top 25 in defense makes them look worse than the Big 12.
This post was edited on 11/11/18 at 12:11 am
Posted on 11/10/18 at 11:46 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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For starters the team tied for first hardly recruits TX
Probably why they are tied for 1st.
Stop acting like the Big 12 is not devoid of a recruiting foot print outside of Texas.
Last year all the power 5 conferences had at least 250 players in the NFL except the BIG 12, which only had 148.
The SEC had 358 and the American had 104
The big 12 is obviously closer in talent to the top G5 league than the rest of the Power 5.
It as bad as the old Big East.
Posted on 11/10/18 at 11:49 pm to StraightCashHomey21
5/14 = 35.7% (SEC)
3/12= 25.0% (PAC 12)
3/14 = 21.4% (Big Ten, ACC)
All greater than 20% (2/10)
3/12= 25.0% (PAC 12)
3/14 = 21.4% (Big Ten, ACC)
All greater than 20% (2/10)
This post was edited on 11/10/18 at 11:52 pm
Posted on 11/11/18 at 12:01 am to AUCE05
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Some TX poster on here had a great theory. TX HS are so offensive focused that the better prospects move to that side of the ball.
makes sense
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