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Foam insulation in new construction

Posted on 11/9/18 at 11:16 pm
Posted by craynagin
North Louisiana
Member since Dec 2006
466 posts
Posted on 11/9/18 at 11:16 pm
Yes or no?

Asking for advice and there's no better place to get said advice than right here.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42582 posts
Posted on 11/9/18 at 11:17 pm to
Like spray?

ETA

There is some people who don't like it. Main rub is it doesn't allow the house to breath.
This post was edited on 11/9/18 at 11:19 pm
Posted by HerkFlyer
Auburn, AL
Member since Jan 2018
3012 posts
Posted on 11/9/18 at 11:19 pm to
Yes, unless cost is an issue. It's nice to be able to see where to step in your attic, plus that blow in shite isn't getting in everything. It's so much cooler up there too.

*Novice opinion
This post was edited on 11/9/18 at 11:21 pm
Posted by Chuker
St George, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2015
7544 posts
Posted on 11/9/18 at 11:23 pm to
When done properly its excellent but expensive.

When done improperly its terrible and expensive.
Posted by Smoke7024
Member since Jun 2010
22741 posts
Posted on 11/9/18 at 11:24 pm to
Spray foam in attic and fiberglass in walls.
Posted by Jimmy2shoes
The South
Member since Mar 2014
11004 posts
Posted on 11/9/18 at 11:25 pm to
quote:

Foam insulation in new construction

yes
quote:

Post construction

nope
This post was edited on 11/9/18 at 11:27 pm
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
18211 posts
Posted on 11/10/18 at 12:04 am to
How well do you trust your roofers?
Posted by Tridentds
Sugar Land
Member since Aug 2011
20675 posts
Posted on 11/10/18 at 7:22 am to
Has to be flexible type foam, not rigid. We did all vertical exterior walls with foam and blow in for the attic. Heard too much about trapping moisture if you foam the attic. Decided not to chance it so we didn’t foam the attic No regrets on my end.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
Undisclosed Secure Location
Member since Feb 2008
18832 posts
Posted on 11/10/18 at 7:48 am to
My BIL owns a spray foam insulation company. That shite is an amazing add in both new con and retro.

Yes absolutely pay the extra and spray foam.
Posted by FLAK88
Gonzales La.
Member since Jan 2015
492 posts
Posted on 11/10/18 at 8:02 am to
I use shredded newspaper
Posted by Wayne Kenoff
Member since Sep 2018
540 posts
Posted on 11/10/18 at 8:05 am to
From what I understand foam insulation works better than just about any other type of insulation.

BUT

The installer MUST know what they’re doing because too much in an area can give off toxic fumes and become a total nightmare. I really wanted to go with this in my attic but I found multiple videos on YouTube about nightmare scenarios people have had with it and quickly decided against it. The risk is not worth the reward for me. I went with a combination of blown in and lay down bat insulation. Made a giant difference in summer electric bills for me.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20966 posts
Posted on 11/10/18 at 8:24 am to
Have seen it used very effectively in basements along the foundation wall, but Louisiana is not exactly known for having basements .

That said research the differences between open and closed cell foam and figure out what is best for you.
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
11873 posts
Posted on 11/10/18 at 10:43 am to
Great if done right. But windows need to be quality as well. On the HVAC system you need to add a 3” or 4” outside air duct tap as your house can get stale. Bet to install a 24v motorized damper interlocked with fan blower.

If doing attic as well then your gas water heater will need to be forced draft and have a ducted combustion air duct.
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
31071 posts
Posted on 11/10/18 at 11:08 am to
Make sure your plumbing and electrical are done how you want it.

Once you spray that foam, its a huge pain in the arse to fix or change that stuff.
Posted by AUsteriskPride
Albuquerque, NM
Member since Feb 2011
18385 posts
Posted on 11/10/18 at 11:46 am to
I am an estimator at a large insulation company. If you want my opinion on how to go about insulating, post an email address and I'll contact you.

In short, if I'm building in the SE, I would have my attic/crawlspace conditioned - unvented, sealed, and tied to my HVAC. "Venting" in the SE is tricky, as you're bringing in humid air almost always. So I would use a closed cell SPF on the crawlspace up to the decking. An R10 (1.5") is sufficient for stem walls, go R19 (3" at rimjoist). For that attic, spray directly to the roof deck and gable ends. For N. Louisiana, I would go with an R15 (2.5" closed cell to the deck), which is required for air impermeability, then either wire an R19 unfaced batt to the deck, or finish it off with 5" of open cell on top of the closed cell. For your walls, use a 1" flash closed cell in the cavities, and if it's 2x4 framing, an R13 batt on top, if 2x6, an R19.

If you insulate your foundation as previously stated, you do not need insulation under your floor. Just make sure you have a substantial vapor retarder on the ground, rising at least 1' up your stem wall and piers. I definitely recommend spray foam, and going to conditioned attic/crawlspace, but only if you have your HVAC company design your system to remove humidity from said areas.

If you go that route, the air quality and comfort of your home will be phenomenal.

Also, another benefit of insulating on the deck of your roof, you keep the ceiling area clear of insulation.

Also, the closed cell SPF will offer you much better structural integrity, keep pests at bay, and make your house much quieter.

ETA: And if you insulate how I stated, all of your electrical and plumbing is in direct access to you at all times in your crawlspace and attic, and if you need to access in your walls, you only have to pull batt insulation out. The main goal is stopping air infiltration, how I described does just that in the most cost effective manner.
This post was edited on 11/10/18 at 11:52 am
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
167018 posts
Posted on 11/10/18 at 12:38 pm to
I’d say yes but hire real professionals who know what the hell is up
Posted by Supermoto Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2010
9955 posts
Posted on 11/10/18 at 2:45 pm to
quote:

Main rub is it doesn't allow the house to breath.

This^^
It really has to be done correctly or you’ll be in for some serious problems. Some say even done properly, the house is still too air-tight. Couple that with the fact that it is expensive as hell - you better plan on living there for a long time to recoup the benefits of the added expense.
Posted by Cump11b
Member since Sep 2018
2026 posts
Posted on 11/10/18 at 2:56 pm to
I did spray foam in my attic and it took 100 bucks a month off my cooling bill. (I also replaced most of my windows, however I can go in my attic in the summer without the threat of heat stroke)
Posted by LZ83
La
Member since Sep 2016
17406 posts
Posted on 11/10/18 at 3:50 pm to
I have it in mine and haven’t regretted it at all
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