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re: Amendment #2 Vote NO to protect against SJW
Posted on 11/6/18 at 11:24 am to 31TIGERS
Posted on 11/6/18 at 11:24 am to 31TIGERS
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The one standout, a black girl, who no matter what, did not want to convict him. Never presented an argument for why she believes he was innocent. Was firm on her decision.
This is EXACTLY why I will vote no for this.
The current system requires no need for any deliberation in these cases. Why should she present an argument when her vote doesn't matter? Why would anyone try to convince her otherwise when the vote is already 11-1 and the suspect is going to prison?
A unanimous jury requirement changes all of that. It's easy to be stubborn when it doesn't matter.
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Posted on 11/6/18 at 11:24 am to Michael Hayes
I'm voting yes because I want the power to the people no matter how stupid.
Sorry to hear that. Sounds rough but allowing the Gubment to override a jury is scary business.
Yes and I am as conservative as any of you cucks every could dream. Maybe pray the people become smarter. Government isn't perfect either dumb arse
Sorry to hear that. Sounds rough but allowing the Gubment to override a jury is scary business.
Yes and I am as conservative as any of you cucks every could dream. Maybe pray the people become smarter. Government isn't perfect either dumb arse
Posted on 11/6/18 at 11:25 am to stampman
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Getting 12 people to agree on anything in today's world is next to impossible. A "No" vote is correct!
Why do you think hung juries haven't been an issue in federal courts in Louisiana? They have the same jury pool as district courts and require a twelve person unanimous verdict.
Posted on 11/6/18 at 11:28 am to stampman
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Getting 12 people to agree on anything in today's world is next to impossible. A "No" vote is correct!
And yet, the vast majority of this country does so just fine.
Posted on 11/6/18 at 11:28 am to reo45
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Sounds rough but allowing the Gubment to override a jury is scary business.
Quite possibly the most ignorant thing stated today.
Posted on 11/6/18 at 11:29 am to slackster
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The current system requires no need for any deliberation in these cases. Why should she present an argument when her vote doesn't matter? Why would anyone try to convince her otherwise when the vote is already 11-1 and the suspect is going to prison?
A unanimous jury requirement changes all of that. It's easy to be stubborn when it doesn't matter.
Don't being all the critical thinking to this thread damn it.
We are conservative family values duh duh.
Posted on 11/6/18 at 11:51 am to Michael Hayes
Agreed. 10/12 or 11/12 should be national standard.
This post was edited on 11/6/18 at 11:52 am
Posted on 11/6/18 at 11:57 am to TigerDeBaiter
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10/12 or 11/12 should be national standard.
Why isn't it then, even in deep red states, if having unanimous juries is apparently so much more expensive and causes loads of criminals to go free?
Posted on 11/6/18 at 12:00 pm to jcaz
10/12 is not justice... 12/12 will require stronger cases to be made and brought before jurors.
If we keep 10/12 however, we need to change things so that a full sentence can only be served on a 12-0 conviction. 10-2 would lead to a 25% sentence and 11-1 a half sentence owing to the incomplete verdicts
If we keep 10/12 however, we need to change things so that a full sentence can only be served on a 12-0 conviction. 10-2 would lead to a 25% sentence and 11-1 a half sentence owing to the incomplete verdicts
This post was edited on 11/6/18 at 12:13 pm
Posted on 11/6/18 at 12:36 pm to Michael Hayes
A no will keep the race war in Louisiana cold.
Posted on 11/6/18 at 12:39 pm to el Gaucho
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el Gaucho
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The republicans trying to keep African American voices from being heard just like in the civil war
You fall somewhere right between imbecile & moron.
Posted on 11/6/18 at 12:58 pm to slackster
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WTF does OJ have to do with any of this?
Kinda the biggest example of jury nullification in recent memory, doncha think? The fact that, despite the evidence, people still voted to let him go?
So if you have 1 or 2 of those mindsets on La jury, they shouldn't get a pass, like OJ did? Or spend more money on a new trial. Lawyers love that hung jury shite. MO MONEY
This post was edited on 11/6/18 at 1:01 pm
Posted on 11/6/18 at 1:06 pm to RobbBobb
Voted no/against. It's crazy how many millennials are on the street corners in Lafayette holding signs to vote yes for this bullshite. I passed one up and gave her the thumbs down sign and booed...she shrugged her shoulders and smiled. Bunch of sheep.
This post was edited on 11/6/18 at 1:07 pm
Posted on 11/6/18 at 1:15 pm to RobbBobb
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Kinda the biggest example of jury nullification in recent memory, doncha think? The fact that, despite the evidence, people still voted to let him go? So if you have 1 or 2 of those mindsets on La jury, they shouldn't get a pass, like OJ did? Or spend more money on a new trial. Lawyers love that hung jury shite. MO MONEY
Like I said, it is EASIER for OJ to get off in LA than it was in CA. All it takes is 10/12 not guilty votes and double jeopardy sets in.
A mistrial =/= not guilty.
Posted on 11/6/18 at 1:23 pm to Tommy Callahan
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I am as conservative as a person could be. That is why I am voting Yes on this amendment.
Guilt should be beyond a reasonable doubt.
Posted on 11/6/18 at 1:38 pm to Michael Hayes
I voted no. For specific reasons like this. I'd rather 10-2, than mistrial 11-1 because someone wants to be an idiot SJW.
Posted on 11/6/18 at 1:51 pm to Michael Hayes
my f.i.l., long time lsp, anti sjw, maga all the way, voted yes. if he's accused, he wants it to be as hard as possible to convict
Posted on 11/6/18 at 1:53 pm to Michael Hayes
Voted no this morning.
Posted on 11/6/18 at 1:56 pm to Tommy Callahan
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"It is better that ten guilty escape than one innocent suffer." -William Blackstone
No. it isn't Bill.
Posted on 11/6/18 at 2:00 pm to bfniii
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my f.i.l., long time lsp, anti sjw, maga all the way, voted yes. if he's accused, he wants it to be as hard as possible to convict
Why tf would he be accused? All this does is make it easier for criminals to escape justice. He doesn’t seem like a criminal
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