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Not Scheme and it's recruiting then.....
Posted on 11/4/18 at 9:18 pm
Posted on 11/4/18 at 9:18 pm
Then Bill Belicheck has nothing to do with the success of the patriots, and the patriots play with ELITE Olines and ELITE WRs and have the best defense in the NFL.(which they clearly don't)
Talent isn't shite if you can't do anything with it.... (see: LF, DGuice,OBJ,Landry)
You can have the best Talent and get out coached
To the morons who are making excuses and defending Steve E and justifying our results due to lack of recruiting and talent then...
How did we lose to troy? They have better talent?
Georgia got 7 5star recruits last year... They didn't shut us out... because their coordinators suck... our coordinators suck. Georgia should be on par with Alabama based off their recruits but they aren't because COACHING is holding them back...Same goes for us
Talent isn't shite if you can't do anything with it.... (see: LF, DGuice,OBJ,Landry)
You can have the best Talent and get out coached
To the morons who are making excuses and defending Steve E and justifying our results due to lack of recruiting and talent then...
How did we lose to troy? They have better talent?
Georgia got 7 5star recruits last year... They didn't shut us out... because their coordinators suck... our coordinators suck. Georgia should be on par with Alabama based off their recruits but they aren't because COACHING is holding them back...Same goes for us
This post was edited on 11/4/18 at 9:32 pm
Posted on 11/4/18 at 9:20 pm to LSUballsack
Woah you’re making too much sense here
Posted on 11/4/18 at 9:23 pm to LSUballsack
I don't think many people are defending E, I think some are trying to talk people down from the ledge that want to fire him. This program will never have stability if we fire every OC we have until we beat Bama.
Posted on 11/4/18 at 9:23 pm to LSUballsack
Bill Belicheck has Tom Brady. Don’t leave out that important fact.
Posted on 11/4/18 at 9:24 pm to CP3forMVP
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Bill Belicheck has Tom Brady. Don’t leave out that important fact.
11-5 with matt cassel
and blew teams out with fricking Jacoby Brisset and Jimmy G while brady was suspended....
but yes I still do believe Tom Brady is the goat...but Belicheck is also arguably the GOAT. Saban is a mentor of belicheck......let's not swing away from the topic...
This post was edited on 11/4/18 at 9:28 pm
Posted on 11/4/18 at 9:25 pm to reauxl tigers
The offense has been an issue all year.
Clear regression from 2017, and Matt Canada is proving that he can gameplan an offense.
LSU needs better. It’s nothing against E, just a recognition that LSU needs better results.
Clear regression from 2017, and Matt Canada is proving that he can gameplan an offense.
LSU needs better. It’s nothing against E, just a recognition that LSU needs better results.
Posted on 11/4/18 at 9:26 pm to RuLSU
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The offense has been an issue all year.
Exactly, It's a problem when our QB has 6 TDs all year....
This post was edited on 11/4/18 at 9:27 pm
Posted on 11/4/18 at 9:28 pm to reauxl tigers
We can’t keep a guy around just for fricking stability.
Our offense is trash and we won’t have tracy Next year.
Our offense is trash and we won’t have tracy Next year.
Posted on 11/4/18 at 9:29 pm to LSUballsack
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but yes I still do believeTom Brady is the goat...but Belicheck is also arguably the GOAT. Saban is a mentor of belicheck......let's not swing away from the topic...
I get what you’re saying, my point is just it’s not JUST Ensminger as it’s not JUST the personnel. I can sit here right now and make a legitimate argument for why Ensminger is the problem just as well as I could make an argument that the players are the problem. But the truth is it’s both, both sides have to be better.
Posted on 11/4/18 at 9:30 pm to CP3forMVP
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I get what you’re saying, my point is just it’s not JUST Ensminger as it’s not JUST the personnel. I can sit here right now and make a legitimate argument for why Ensminger is the problem just as well as I could make an argument that the players are the problem. But the truth is it’s both, both sides have to be better.
Yes but could you argue that we would have beaten Alabama with their offensive players with our scheme?
answer is no.
This post was edited on 11/4/18 at 9:33 pm
Posted on 11/4/18 at 9:31 pm to RuLSU
The backfield has taken a big step down from Williams and Guice. Lack of a running game hurts passing. But everything starts with OL play.
Posted on 11/4/18 at 9:38 pm to LSUballsack
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Yes but could you argue that we would have beaten Alabama with their offensive players with our scheme? answer is no.
I could absolutely make that argument. Our scheme isn't the reason Bamas DL embarrassed ours all night long, for example.
Posted on 11/4/18 at 9:38 pm to fightntiger32
So we need a 1st round RB to be successful now? K
Posted on 11/4/18 at 10:09 pm to reauxl tigers
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I don't think many people are defending E, I think some are trying to talk people down from the ledge that want to fire him. This program will never have stability if we fire every OC we have until we beat Bama.
Lil’ Nicky has had 6 different O/C’s in 10 years at Bama.
Posted on 11/4/18 at 10:12 pm to RuLSU
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The offense has been an issue for a decade.
Posted on 11/4/18 at 10:19 pm to LSUballsack
quote:I agree with most of your post, but Georgia has not had enough top classes to be on bama's level re: talent. It takes more than a couple classes.
Georgia should be on par with Alabama based off their recruits but they aren't because COACHING is holding them back.
Posted on 11/4/18 at 10:35 pm to reauxl tigers
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This program will never have stability if we fire every OC we have until we beat Bama.
So you are saying we should settle for the 104th best offense in the country because we may get worse by shaking things up? We can’t go much lower
Posted on 11/4/18 at 10:39 pm to LSUballsack
There won’t be any cleanse top to bottom. Definitely not this year. We can only hope that this game makes Orgeron finally realize that he fricked up in promoting Ensminger to offensive coordinator and gets rid of him after the season or demotes him back to TE coach and gets a real coordinator.
Posted on 11/4/18 at 10:46 pm to reauxl tigers
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I think some are trying to talk people down from the ledge that want to fire him
He's not a good OC. He didn't want the job. How many more reasons do you need for replacing him?
Posted on 11/4/18 at 11:42 pm to CP3forMVP
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I get what you’re saying, my point is just it’s not JUST Ensminger as it’s not JUST the personnel. I can sit here right now and make a legitimate argument for why Ensminger is the problem just as well as I could make an argument that the players are the problem. But the truth is it’s both, both sides have to be better.
You are right though. It you put the 2013 offensive players on this team, that Bama game is close as frick. Don't know about a win or loss, but we'd easily compete with them. It pisses me off that we made Bama look way better than they are.
Problem with that is that you don't get those type of guys every year. Even in 2012, almost that entire 2013 unit had problems.
Scheme does need to be better though. We've had one good offense in the past decade (2011). We've had one great offense the past decade (2013).
I will tell you right now that the OL, QB, WR, RB (Helaire), getting experience this year will pay HUGE dividends next year. Adding Tyrion Davis at RB will also boost our run game tremendously there. He is a legit SEC type RB. Speed, power, and hands out of the backfield. Adding Kardell Thomas will be effective in beefing up the OL and Rosenthal could see starting time at tackle next year.
Ed needs to grow a spine and go in the off-season and grab Kendal Briles, Hugh Freeze, or Sterlin Gilbert. Put Ensminger back at TE and let go of Sullivan (if he isn't already retiring). This offense is as bad as the 2014 offense but having such a good defense and kicking game masked that to many who don't pay attention. The Ensminger experiment is over.
There are guys out there that have proved that they can turn an offense around in literally a year's time. We already partially started the spread transformation, so it won't be some drastic change and uphill battle. LSU can get WAY better on offense in just one year's time, they just have to do what it takes to make that happen.
This post was edited on 11/4/18 at 11:44 pm
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