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Going under the knife might be uncertain in the future

Posted on 11/1/18 at 2:51 pm
Posted by anc
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Posted on 11/1/18 at 2:51 pm
Good read from Intellectual Takeout: LINK

Whether it’s for something as serious as cancer or as routine as a kidney stone, no one likes to hear that they have to go under the surgical knife. But such unhappy news is often lightened once a patient has the chance to talk to the surgeon and realize that he is in good, capable hands.

Unfortunately, those good, capable, surgery-performing hands may be an increasing rarity in the years ahead. According to Roger Kneebone, a London professor of surgical education, the last several years have seen a decided change in the abilities of medical students: they are having greater difficulty working with their hands.

Kneebone goes on to imply that skills learned in shop class, home economics, or other more extra-curricular courses have been thrown out of school with unforeseen consequences:

“We are talking about the ability to do things with your hands, with tools, cutting things out and putting things together … which is really important in order to do the right thing either with operations, or with experiments. You need to understand how hard you can pull things before you do damage to them or how quickly you can do things with them before they change in some way.”

Such skills have often been replaced by virtual reality games and activities performed on screens. These activities, while realistic, are no substitute for actual hands-on experience, explains Kneebone, for real-world experience broadens understanding and spatial awareness.
Posted by Jackie Chan
Japan?
Member since Sep 2012
4837 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 2:54 pm to
The computer will be doing the cutting in the future so we good.
Posted by TygerDurden
Member since Sep 2009
1939 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 2:58 pm to
Helluva Handle for professor “kneebone” Guarantee he had some good nicknames in school.
Posted by Ghost of Colby
Alberta, overlooking B.C.
Member since Jan 2009
14827 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 3:02 pm to
I had a conversation with a longtime kindergarten teacher recently. She stated over the last decade or so kids are much more prepared for kindergarten except in one area.... their hands.

Many don’t play with blocks or color nearly as much as they used to. The result is their handwriting, drawing, and overall hand strength and coordination lags behind previous generations.
Posted by Geauxboy
NW Arkansas
Member since Oct 2006
4856 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 3:03 pm to
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routine as a kidney stone


Umm.....I currently have one in each kidney. 4th and 5th ones this year. I don't think the word "routine" fits.
Posted by TheFonz
Somewhere in Louisiana
Member since Jul 2016
22698 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 3:04 pm to
A routine appendectomy in the year 2038:

Posted by TRUERockyTop
Appalachia
Member since Sep 2011
16790 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 3:08 pm to
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Umm.....I currently have one in each kidney. 4th and 5th ones this year. I don't think the word "routine" fits


Prayers up. Those evil little dudes are brutal.
Posted by Yellerhammer5
Member since Oct 2012
10960 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 3:13 pm to
This is largely due to the increase in females. I frequently have to teach them how to switch on a simple power tool.
Posted by When in Rome
Telegraph Road
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 11/1/18 at 3:17 pm to
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Kneebone, a London professor of surgical education
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 11/1/18 at 3:21 pm to
Cell phones, video games, and computers arent helping hand coordination?
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 11/1/18 at 3:27 pm to
Best of luck. Give us an update when you’re done so we know you made it.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 11/1/18 at 3:32 pm to
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they are having greater difficulty working with their hands

I think “they” means “she”
Posted by leftovergumbo
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 11/1/18 at 3:35 pm to
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skills learned in shop class, home economics, or other more extra-curricular courses


I wouldn't want any of my former ag and shop classmates performing delicate procedures on my insides
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
63882 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 3:36 pm to
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I wouldn't want any of my former ag and shop classmates performing delicate procedures on my insides



Posted by Kcrad
Diamondhead
Member since Nov 2010
64838 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 4:05 pm to
The future's uncertain and the end is always near.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 11/1/18 at 4:09 pm to
Im not sure how much I agree with Dr. Elbowtendon here



Having good hands/crafty hands etc, seems to be a skill one is usually born with, similar to being artistic or not.


I love doing things with my hands and working on shite, and grew up doing it with a dad who is an unreal carpenter and can make anything.


And by God do I suck at it
Posted by mjax57
Vinings, GA
Member since Mar 2012
4692 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 4:09 pm to
Until some engineering student from Georgia tech comes up with a robot that can cut to the exact point.
Posted by The Last Coco
On the water
Member since Mar 2009
6916 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 4:14 pm to
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they are having greater difficulty working with their hands

I think “they” means “she”


Female physicians have lower malpractice rates and lower readmission rates and female surgeons have lower 30-day mortality rates.
Posted by Chief Hinge
There and Here
Member since Sep 2018
3184 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 4:14 pm to
Have they checked the previous stones to see what is causing them? It's usually dietary.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 11/1/18 at 4:31 pm to
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currently have one in each kidney. 4th and 5th ones this year. I don't think the word "routine" fits.


I used to get them. Then someone told me he heard at chiropractor convention that some people were able to use a concoction of asparagus cooked in regular coca cola original to dissolve them.
Cool and receive it all.
I do 15 minutes. Now, when I feel my kidneys jumping me in the slightest I make a couple of batches. Never fails. 3 or 4 does it for months for me.
I suppose if you are diabetic you can't use original recipe.
The asparagus draws the coca cola into the kidneys. Ever use coca cola to clean bicycle rims?

Good luck.
This post was edited on 11/1/18 at 4:33 pm
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