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F cancer, F insurance companies, and F big pharma!!!

Posted on 10/20/18 at 7:06 am
Posted by jgoodw318
Bossier City
Member since Sep 2013
1105 posts
Posted on 10/20/18 at 7:06 am
My favorite aunt was diagnosed with ovarian cancer a little over 3 yrs ago. After a year of chemo and radiation therapy she finally had surgery to try and remove the cancer from her body. The surgery was successful and after 1 more round of chemo she went into remission. Sadly, about a year after that she found out that the cancer was back but it was not as aggressive and could be controlled and contained as long as she stays on chemo basically for the rest of her life. She was perscribed an FDA approved oral oncology drug. Yesterday we found out that her insurance would no longer pay for the drug that she needs to sustain her life. This drug costs $15,000 a month. My aunt is a high school teacher and an employee of the state of Arkansas. Her insurance company, provided by the state, and the state have both pretty much told her tough shite.

First, how TF is it moral or ethical to charge that much for any drug? I get that it’s not cheap but my God that is ridiculous! Secondly, screw that fricking insurance company for refusing to pay for a drug when one of its customers makes all of her payments for that reason. And lastly, frick CANCER!!!
Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
Member since Oct 2013
26957 posts
Posted on 10/20/18 at 7:08 am to
Research and development cost suck, thank the FDA...
Posted by JumpingTheShark
America
Member since Nov 2012
22999 posts
Posted on 10/20/18 at 7:11 am to
Which drug is it? Sorry to hear about all this shite.
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
18564 posts
Posted on 10/20/18 at 7:13 am to
It’s my biggest gripe about health insurance. They make it damn hard to know exactly what you’re going to pay in the event that you get sick or injured.
Posted by BowDownToLSU
Livingston louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
19322 posts
Posted on 10/20/18 at 7:16 am to
Lost my dad( and my hero) in May to Cancer. I’m not big into conspiracies but I’m not one hundred percent sure that their isn’t a cure. These pharmaceutical companies stand to lose a lot of money if a cure is out there... I’m with you frick all three
Posted by donRANDOMnumbers
Hub City
Member since Nov 2006
16961 posts
Posted on 10/20/18 at 7:17 am to
I agree about all of them sucking.

But if they paid 15k a month for drugs for everyone with cancer then I can’t see how it would be sustainable.

The problem is the fact that it’s 15k.
Posted by Phat Phil
Krispy Kreme
Member since May 2010
7375 posts
Posted on 10/20/18 at 7:21 am to
We have the WORST healthcare system in the world when you look the cost and accessibility for average people.
Posted by Pectus
Internet
Member since Apr 2010
67302 posts
Posted on 10/20/18 at 7:23 am to
Health insurance is different than health care!
Posted by lsulefty5
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
901 posts
Posted on 10/20/18 at 7:29 am to
Go over to India and get it over there. Drugs over there are a fraction of the cost. No idea what it would be, but my grandfathers alzheimer medicine was 1/2 of the price over there than even by what was covered by insurance here.
Posted by BABAR
Huntsville
Member since May 2013
332 posts
Posted on 10/20/18 at 7:36 am to
Really sad stat I saw last week, 40% of people who get cancer end up going through all their life savings paying for treatment with co-pays, deductibles, no insurance ,etc.
I forget the number, but the % of bankruptcies due to medical expenses is really high. And yes, fvck cancer
Posted by BowDownToLSU
Livingston louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
19322 posts
Posted on 10/20/18 at 7:36 am to
Jgoodw318 you need to get your congressman involved along with contacting the news station in your area. Blast them all over social media, ive seen these frickers cave when the pressure is applied...
Posted by UltimaParadox
Huntsville
Member since Nov 2008
40913 posts
Posted on 10/20/18 at 7:38 am to
Contact the drug company. Most will provide the drug for little to no cost if insurance refuses to pay.
This post was edited on 10/20/18 at 7:39 am
Posted by toosleaux
Stuck in Baton Rouge traffic
Member since Dec 2007
9244 posts
Posted on 10/20/18 at 7:42 am to
I implore everyone to watch the documentary Escape Fire. It’s eye opening. You will never look at healthcare in this country the same way again.
Posted by LSUCanFAN
In the past
Member since Jan 2009
28073 posts
Posted on 10/20/18 at 7:45 am to
I support this message.
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
73192 posts
Posted on 10/20/18 at 8:02 am to
Big Pharma in collusion with Big Government is a criminal racket.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 10/20/18 at 8:13 am to
quote:

how TF is it moral or ethical to charge that much for any drug?


It doesn't cost much to make each dose at all, but the very first one probably cost half a billion, and the company is now trying to make up for that investment. It's also trying to recoup the many lost millions spent working on drugs that never even made it to market for whatever reason.

The economics is much like that of airlines. It costs very little to fly you from one point to the next, in most cases ten bucks or so. Most of your ticket price goes to paying for what it costs to get the airplane itself (yes I know they lease and don't purchase, I'm keeping it simple here).

You may have a shot at getting a lower price by dickering over it with the company since they're simply trying to recover money they've already spent.

But if pharma companies were really robbing people blind then you could simply buy their stock and get rich from the extra returns.
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
63025 posts
Posted on 10/20/18 at 8:36 am to
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15,000 a month

Coincidentally what some drug sales reps make.
Posted by MSMHater
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
22782 posts
Posted on 10/20/18 at 8:40 am to
OP, have your aunt call the drug manufacturer. Ask them if they have a patient assistance program (PAP) for uninsured or non- covered patients. I don't know what the drug is, but most manufacturers have such a program. She will have to compete a financial document proving her inability to pay, but if she qualifies, there may be a lower cost option for her.

Good luck.
Posted by Spasweezy
Unfortunately, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2014
6647 posts
Posted on 10/20/18 at 8:46 am to
Has she checked into obtaining Medicaid coverage? Is she of Medicare age? Is she married? There could be some creative ways to try to get her back onto some sort of plan that could cover cost depending on what her AGI is.
This post was edited on 10/20/18 at 8:50 am
Posted by Beau Fontenot
Member since Oct 2018
121 posts
Posted on 10/20/18 at 9:17 am to
So sorry to hear this. Not only do we have a healthcare crisis, first and foremost we have a crisis of morality. Our current approach is completely antithetical to Christian teaching.
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