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re: Do elementary schools still have Gifted & Talented classes for the smart kids?

Posted on 9/25/18 at 10:20 pm to
Posted by nolatiger711
Metairie, LA
Member since Oct 2009
770 posts
Posted on 9/25/18 at 10:20 pm to
Jefferson Parish has Academies for Advanced Studies. Nothing is taken into account except for the test. Siblings don’t even get a bump, which sucks because kid 2 is testing this year. For my son’s year, cut off to make it into Metairie Academy was 94th percentile or higher. Has a very NOLA catholic school feel, except better academics and free (including breakfast and lunch). On top of that, they start doing gifted and talented around 1st grade. I would say at least 2/3rds of his PK4 class had attended a catholic school for PK3.
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
39373 posts
Posted on 9/25/18 at 10:23 pm to
Elementary school gifted sucks. We mostly just made posters and did artsy stuff.
Posted by HerkFlyer
Auburn, AL
Member since Jan 2018
3012 posts
Posted on 9/25/18 at 10:24 pm to
quote:

I asked if schools still, as in today do, not did. But thank you.


Maybe Kujo is a 4th grader
Posted by Marlo Stanfield
Member since Aug 2008
2087 posts
Posted on 9/25/18 at 10:42 pm to
Yes, here in Texas it is still a thing.
Posted by Starchild
Member since May 2010
13550 posts
Posted on 9/25/18 at 10:52 pm to
Yes, but not necessarily at every school
Posted by BoardReader
Arkansas
Member since Dec 2007
6938 posts
Posted on 9/25/18 at 11:24 pm to
It exists, but not in all schools.

It is considered a branch of special education, so is mandated by law to exist within a district-- but individual schools, particularly charters, can have exemptions.

My daughters go to a Charter that offers no G/T program; they argue that the instruction they offer is aimed at G/T being an expectation of each student, not a higher standard to be planned for differently. They tend to winnow out those who can't perform academically pretty efficiently.
Posted by OleWar
Troy H. Middleton Library
Member since Mar 2008
5828 posts
Posted on 9/25/18 at 11:30 pm to
Is this in Arkansas (rules might be different). Because if in Louisiana, a Charter still needs to comply with the IEP or they can find themselves getting sanctioned or shut down.
Posted by FCP
Delta State Univ. - Fightin' Okra
Member since Sep 2010
4815 posts
Posted on 9/25/18 at 11:41 pm to
quote:

Do they still have these classes
Yup. Two out of three of mine went through the testing and took (are taking) the gifted classes. Subtle brag, I know. My other kid just passed the school's gifted test this year and will now take the Parish's gifted test to see if she qualifies for the gifted classes.
Posted by Ebrow21
Lutcher, La.
Member since Apr 2015
46 posts
Posted on 9/25/18 at 11:45 pm to
Yes, St James Parish also has a Gifted and Scholastic Center specifically for qualifying students. They can get around offering services for IEP’s after 2nd grade through a loophole. They make anyone wants to continue receiving them enroll in the school.

There are around 30 students, 3rd through 8th grade. I believe 20 of those are in 7th & 8th.

Students are able to take High School courses in middle school and dual enroll (for free) at Nicholls while in High School. Essentially you end High School with enough credits to be a second semester Sophomore or first semester junior.

This post was edited on 9/25/18 at 11:49 pm
Posted by BoardReader
Arkansas
Member since Dec 2007
6938 posts
Posted on 9/26/18 at 5:25 am to
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Is this in Arkansas (rules might be different). Because if in Louisiana, a Charter still needs to comply with the IEP or they can find themselves getting sanctioned or shut down.


Short version- it is; yes, they are decidedly different; yes, you can have an IEP and be in the school-- however, if you cannot do the work with your accommodations, they are not obligated to socially promote you; accommodation does not equate to changing the rules for you to succeed.

They're in Year 6 now, of existence. My older daughter is in the first class that started out in the school, at the Kindergarden level; of her original class of 74, 19 are left.

The results have been striking; their first graduating class --they ramped up to being K-to-12, by starting out with only K-8, adding a year each year-- had over $3M in scholarship offers, including 3 Ivy offers. Not bad for 10 students.





Posted by musick
the internet
Member since Dec 2008
26126 posts
Posted on 9/26/18 at 6:02 am to
Yes.

Source I work in a school district
Posted by lake chuck fan
westlake
Member since Aug 2011
9501 posts
Posted on 9/26/18 at 6:57 am to
Calcasieu parish does. My son started in 4th grade, stayed in it thru middle school. Helped keep him on course for the gifted program in high school, which really prepared him for college.
Posted by Muthsera
Member since Jun 2017
7319 posts
Posted on 9/26/18 at 6:58 am to
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but I didn't make it.


Well, we officially found the dumbest OT poster.
This post was edited on 9/26/18 at 7:01 am
Posted by GouxRoux
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2007
161 posts
Posted on 9/26/18 at 8:13 am to
They have it here in EBR and it is the crown jewel of the system. I couldn't recommend it more. The only bad part about it is that they don't have a GT specific school so you are lumped into the normal school system to bolster that schools grade average. If you even remotely think that your child has a shot at it, have them tested. It's free and worth the shot. Take a look at the link below if you have any questions. Not only does my child have excellent teachers but her knife skills are on point.

EBR Gifted Link
Posted by BRich
Old Metairie
Member since Aug 2017
2259 posts
Posted on 9/26/18 at 9:29 am to
Interesting to see that the G/T program is still a thing, 40 years later. I was in it when it first started in the mid-1970s, and was in it from middle school through graduation. Louisiana was awash with oil money back then and the state economy was growing. Seems like they needed to do something with all that money, so they threw some at the higher end of the spectrum, to (realistically) kids who didn't need it.

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Some schools pull the kids out of regular classes for certain periods of the day for gifted/talented enrichment classes and some schools have students in gifted classes all day.


The "leaving regular classes for certain periods of the day" was the way we worked. Usually a different class every day for an hour or so.

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Elementary school gifted sucks. We mostly just made posters and did artsy stuff.


In middle school G/T we did a lot of projects and assignments-- learned about filmmaking and special effects and made a Star Wars rip-off movie; made a fake newspaper set in the time of King Tut, learned about stock markets and had a contest to see who could make the most money, designed undersea cities, and learned about computers and interesting math things like parabolic curves. Took a lot of field trips.

G/T participation really kind of fell off in high school for most students-- too many other activities at school (sports, school paper/yearbook, SGA, etc.), interest in the other sex, partying, etc. About the only thing I remember from that time was that we ran a faux-radio station, took some field trips and, yeah, did some art.
Posted by deathvalleygrassmmmm
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2011
580 posts
Posted on 9/26/18 at 9:38 am to
My twins are in the gifted program in Lafayette Parrish. They tested at the end of first. Both got in. It was IQ based. They get accelerated math and science(a year above grade level), everything else is on grade level but a faster pace, and an enrichment class to explore different projects more creatively.
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