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re: joe burrow vs kellen mond

Posted on 9/9/18 at 2:43 pm to
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 9/9/18 at 2:43 pm to
I got banned last night for starting this thread. Just a heads up.
Posted by sunnydaze
Member since Jan 2010
30683 posts
Posted on 9/9/18 at 2:44 pm to
Jimbo
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18529 posts
Posted on 9/9/18 at 2:45 pm to
quote:

thats what im saying! where does this better coaching narrative even come from?


last year for Jimbo was an aberration. And he lost his starting QB first game of the season.

Except for last year, Jimbo went:

10-4
9-4
12-2
14-0
13-1
10-3
10-3

3 ACC championships, 1 national championship

That's where the "better coaching narrative" comes from.
Posted by MRGeaux
Member since Jul 2018
297 posts
Posted on 9/9/18 at 2:46 pm to
Burrow is not an elite passer...period... LSU offense is in no way coached or play calling as TAM. LSU does not have the o line protection that Mond has.. any other questions.
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
14962 posts
Posted on 9/9/18 at 2:51 pm to
Mond was under duress most of the night against what is probably the best DL in the nation and maybe the best D overall.

The difference is, most of the time no matter which direction he looked, there was an option for him to throw to. They might not have been open, but every "sector" of the field, horizontally, had an eligible reciever in it or passing through.

So when he kept his eyes downfield, it was for good reason. And where did he make his living last night? RBs over the top of pressure, TEs/WRs in the middle.

For us, if Burrow drifted/scrambled left or right, he would have one guy to look for. Keeping his eyes downfield was pointless. And stepping up in the pocket and throwing to the middle? Forget about it... we're in max protect; all he saw of the TEs was their asses and plumber's crack.
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
9252 posts
Posted on 9/9/18 at 2:57 pm to
quote:

That's where the "better coaching narrative" comes from.


Why do you think the past has any relevance to the current? Orgeron's past was bad, but he's learned from his mistakes and is good now.
Posted by Douboy
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2007
4332 posts
Posted on 9/9/18 at 2:58 pm to
quote:

Jimbo is a lot better than Ensminger


Lol, one won and one lost. Tell me which won did what....
Posted by LSU82BILL
Fort Lauderdale, FL
Member since Sep 2006
10413 posts
Posted on 9/9/18 at 3:01 pm to
quote:

I still can't believe people don't realize that Fisher wanted out of FSU. Their administration is bad like ours and refused to pay for better assistant coaches. The guy just didn't give a shite anymore.


Really?


quote:

Jimbo wanted to be one of the highest-paid coaches in college football — and FSU made it happen.

Jimbo wanted his assistant coaches’ salaries to be among the best in college football — and FSU made it happen.

Jimbo wanted to spend millions on infrastructure, staffing and facilities — and FSU made it happen

Jimbo wanted an indoor practice facility — and FSU made it happen. Jimbo wanted a stand-alone football complex — and FSU was about to make it happen.


LINK
This post was edited on 9/9/18 at 3:03 pm
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
72028 posts
Posted on 9/9/18 at 3:04 pm to
quote:

Lol, one won and one lost. Tell me which won did what....


We play them this year. And the Aggies will still be talking about beating us 30 years from now.
Posted by VerbalKint
Member since Jun 2017
3355 posts
Posted on 9/9/18 at 3:11 pm to
quote:

shite coaching. It's the answer to everything.
. Gotta be this right here. Or some voodoo hex. Seems like we are destined to have a crappy passing game.
Posted by JohnnyU
Florida
Member since Nov 2006
12350 posts
Posted on 9/9/18 at 3:14 pm to
We weren’t sold a bill of goods with Burrow. He is D1 quarterback.

He was sold a bill of goods by O and Ensminger.

Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
64622 posts
Posted on 9/9/18 at 3:16 pm to
quote:

Lol, one won and one lost. Tell me which won did what....


I knew there were too many one/won combos in there to get it right.
Posted by LongTime Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
2479 posts
Posted on 9/9/18 at 4:21 pm to
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wheres the disconnect?



Look at the number of college snaps each has taken & I think that will give you the answer to some extent. Mond may be more talented and certainly is more mobile. But he was starting his 10th collegiate game while Joe was starting his 2nd. Joe had very limited snaps during his tenure at OSU. GIve Joe some time before you make a true comparison.
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
27265 posts
Posted on 9/9/18 at 4:34 pm to
quote:

Lol, one won and one lost. Tell me which won did what


After every one of your posts, I realize you really are dumb.
Posted by Broham
Member since Feb 2005
18531 posts
Posted on 9/9/18 at 4:38 pm to
Everyone should be able to answer your question with 1 word.....COACHING
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
18900 posts
Posted on 9/9/18 at 5:02 pm to
Disconnect is Jimbo can coach QBs while LSU has a mediocre burned out TE coach at OC.
Posted by justice
Member since Feb 2006
54904 posts
Posted on 9/9/18 at 5:05 pm to
Jimbo fisher vs slinger
This post was edited on 9/9/18 at 5:06 pm
Posted by LSU91MBA
Houston
Member since Aug 2008
1588 posts
Posted on 9/9/18 at 6:24 pm to
Virtually every recruit on FSU this season was Jimbo's.

They suck.

Conclusion... he saw it coming and ran to the highest bidder.

Yes, aTm came back and nearly pulled it out last night, but a few things go differently and Clemson is resting their starters with a 28 point lead.

Its 'breaks' sometimes they go your way, sometimes they don't.

Aggie fans are sky high on Jimbo today, after a loss... I remember them crowning Kevin Sumlin 1 game into his second season, then wanting to fire him by the end.

Aggies lose 4 games by end of October...wont be anybody praising Jimbo.
Posted by ellessuuuu
Member since Sep 2004
8557 posts
Posted on 9/9/18 at 6:34 pm to
Jimbo Fisher v. O and Ensminger. It really is that simple.
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
9252 posts
Posted on 9/9/18 at 6:55 pm to
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Virtually every recruit on FSU this season was Jimbo's.

They suck.

Conclusion... he saw it coming and ran to the highest bidder.

Yes, aTm came back and nearly pulled it out last night, but a few things go differently and Clemson is resting their starters with a 28 point lead.

Its 'breaks' sometimes they go your way, sometimes they don't.

Aggie fans are sky high on Jimbo today, after a loss... I remember them crowning Kevin Sumlin 1 game into his second season, then wanting to fire him by the end.

Aggies lose 4 games by end of October...wont be anybody praising Jimbo.


see guys, its clearly not a coaching thing because texas A&M's coach is not very good.
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