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Ethan Hawke Is Not That Impressed By Superhero Movies
Posted on 8/26/18 at 12:42 pm
Posted on 8/26/18 at 12:42 pm
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In a chat with The Film Stage ahead of the Lifetime Achievement Award he is being awarded at the Locarno Film Festival, Hawke discussed his feelings about the difference between a good movie and a good superhero movie.
“Now we have the problem that they tell us Logan is a great movie,” he said. “Well, it’s a great superhero movie. It still involves people in tights with metal coming out of their hands. It’s not Bresson. It’s not Bergman. But they talk about it like it is.
“I went to see Logan ‘cause everyone was like, ‘This is a great movie’ and I was like, ‘Really? No, this is a fine superhero movie.’ There’s a difference, but big business doesn’t think there’s a difference. Big business wants you to think that this is a great film because they wanna make money off of it.”
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Posted on 8/26/18 at 12:48 pm to RLDSC FAN
I mean it may come off a little snobby but he’s probably not wrong.
Posted on 8/26/18 at 12:51 pm to RLDSC FAN
He's mad Marvel wouldn't sign him.
Posted on 8/26/18 at 12:55 pm to RLDSC FAN
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Big business wants you to think that this is a great film because they wanna make money off of it
Posted on 8/26/18 at 12:55 pm to Brosef Stalin
"Great movie" is way too nonspecific for Hawke to make this argument IMO
It's like saying no action movie can be a great movie
It's like saying no action movie can be a great movie
This post was edited on 8/26/18 at 12:57 pm
Posted on 8/26/18 at 12:55 pm to RLDSC FAN
Don't disagree. These superhero movies are fine for what they are as simple entertainment, but they're rarely more than that.
Posted on 8/26/18 at 1:05 pm to RLDSC FAN
I am not that impressed by Ethan's performance in Training Day...doesn't mean I still don't enjoy the movie
also Boyhood sucked. It wasn't a good movie by any standard.
also Boyhood sucked. It wasn't a good movie by any standard.
Posted on 8/26/18 at 1:08 pm to Brosef Stalin
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He's mad Marvel wouldn't sign him.
Do you have a link for that?
Posted on 8/26/18 at 1:17 pm to RLDSC FAN
Just a guess. He was supposedly considered for Dr Strange though.
Posted on 8/26/18 at 1:40 pm to Peazey
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Don't disagree. These superhero movies are fine for what they are as simple entertainment, but they're rarely more than that.
Posted on 8/26/18 at 1:46 pm to Sun God
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"Great movie" is way too nonspecific for Hawke to make this argument IMO
It's like saying no action movie can be a great movie
This is the correct answer. He's being pretty snobby.
Posted on 8/26/18 at 1:56 pm to RLDSC FAN
God, the worst part about superhero movies to me is when I get conned into seeing them in theaters.
Most middling movies at least have the decency to end when the credits roll. These comic films seem to view the credits as a mere breather before the cringiest moments appear on screen.
"Alright, credits! Movie's over! Two hours and 40 minutes...jesus that was long..my arse is numb...let's go home...or to a bar....or anywhere"
"What do you mean? You think we can leave now? The best parts are after the credits!"
"FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCKKK MEEEEEEEE!!!"
Most middling movies at least have the decency to end when the credits roll. These comic films seem to view the credits as a mere breather before the cringiest moments appear on screen.
"Alright, credits! Movie's over! Two hours and 40 minutes...jesus that was long..my arse is numb...let's go home...or to a bar....or anywhere"
"What do you mean? You think we can leave now? The best parts are after the credits!"
"FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCKKK MEEEEEEEE!!!"
Posted on 8/26/18 at 2:07 pm to St Augustine
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I mean it may come off a little snobby but he’s probably not wrong.
Ehh, that really depends on what your definition of a great movie is.
He likes slow depressing foreign films. He mentions Ingmar Berman and Robert Besson who I'm sure a large portion of this board would be bored to tears with.
His problem is he views only certain kinds of art as capable of being great.
This is the equivalent of a classical musician saying "meh, good for a rock band but not real music" when asked what they think of bands like Led Zeppelin or The Beatles.
This post was edited on 8/26/18 at 2:10 pm
Posted on 8/26/18 at 2:08 pm to RLDSC FAN
He's mad because he's never been invited to be in one...
Posted on 8/26/18 at 2:13 pm to VoxDawg
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He's mad because he's never been invited to be in one...
Not true, he was one of Nolans top choices for Harvey Dent. I believe Damon was the top choice, then Hawke.
Posted on 8/26/18 at 2:15 pm to Dr RC
his filmography is more EDM than classical
Posted on 8/26/18 at 2:34 pm to RLDSC FAN
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‘Really? No, this is a fine superhero movie.’
Yep, I agree. And there is nothing wrong with this.
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Big business wants you to think that this is a great film because they wanna make money off of it.”
Yep, I agree. And there is nothing wrong with this.
Posted on 8/26/18 at 2:44 pm to WaltTeevens
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God, the worst part about superhero movies to me is when I get conned into seeing them in theaters.
How do you keep getting conned into going to see movies you don't like? Sounds like a personal problem tbh
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