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re: Do you turn off your vehicle when filling up?

Posted on 8/25/18 at 1:08 pm to
Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 8/25/18 at 1:08 pm to
I was watching the Monaco Grand Prix the other day and I couldn’t stop screaming at my TV for someone to go out there and tell the drivers to turn off their cars before refueling. We lose so many good drivers that way. Lewis Hamilton was lucky to make it out.
Posted by shinerfan
Duckworld(Earth-616)
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 8/25/18 at 1:17 pm to
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When you are releasing a whole shitload of flammable vapors around your car, I think it only makes sense to get rid of the obvious ignition sources while doing so.



You ever know anyone whose car blew up at the gas pump?

Ever wonder why not?
Posted by Undertow
Member since Sep 2016
7387 posts
Posted on 8/25/18 at 1:32 pm to
What’s the point in leaving it on? Extreme laziness is all I can think of.
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
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Posted on 8/25/18 at 1:33 pm to
I want to sit in the ac while I’m filling up
Posted by TigerDeBaiter
Member since Dec 2010
10270 posts
Posted on 8/25/18 at 1:35 pm to
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Do you turn off your vehicle when filling up?

Yes. I’m not risking an incident and am also not an inconsiderate a-hole to the others around me. The chances of something happening are very small, but why chance it at all?
Posted by airfernando
Member since Oct 2015
15248 posts
Posted on 8/25/18 at 1:53 pm to
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Would you rather your baby sweat or possibly get blown up?
shows how little people understand. Leaving a car running is not a problem when filling up. Most gas station fire are cause by static electricity.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 8/25/18 at 1:56 pm to
It’s funny how threads go in one direction or the other on the OT based on if the OT is on its period or not.

This thread gets started every once in a while and usually everyone knows that you don’t have to turn your car off and agree with the OP. For some reason today he’s catching heat.

Your car isn’t going to blow up if you leave it on.
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 8/25/18 at 1:59 pm to
I smoke a cig while filling up for added drama.
Posted by Phil A Sheo
equinsu ocha
Member since Aug 2011
12166 posts
Posted on 8/25/18 at 2:14 pm to
quote:

Do you turn off your vehicle when filling up?


I thought this myth has been debunked??

I know the cellphone one pretty much has.
Posted by SpecialHazard
SOCAL
Member since Jan 2018
1572 posts
Posted on 8/25/18 at 2:15 pm to
I use my phone. Is that bad?
Posted by lsuwontonwrap
Member since Aug 2012
34147 posts
Posted on 8/25/18 at 2:20 pm to
quote:

Do you turn off your vehicle when filling up?


I worry about some of you people.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
28822 posts
Posted on 8/25/18 at 2:23 pm to
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Yes. I’m not risking an incident and am also not an inconsiderate a-hole to the others around me. The chances of something happening are very small, but why chance it at all?

Has it ever happened even one time in the last 10 years?
Posted by shinerfan
Duckworld(Earth-616)
Member since Sep 2009
22671 posts
Posted on 8/25/18 at 2:28 pm to
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What’s the point in leaving it on? Extreme laziness is all I can think of.





If I'm by myself I generally cut it off. If there's someone in the truck I generally leave it running. (Unless I'm mad at them. Yeah, sometimes I'm a dick.)
This post was edited on 8/25/18 at 2:32 pm
Posted by pensacola
pensacola
Member since Sep 2005
4653 posts
Posted on 8/25/18 at 2:29 pm to
The LFL of gasoline is 1.4 and the UFL is 7.6.

So, if you’re fast enough you could actually extinguish cigarette in a 5 gal bucket of gasoline. Just have to get the cig through the less concentrated vapor and you’re home free.

Baws will be baws
This post was edited on 8/25/18 at 2:33 pm
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
28822 posts
Posted on 8/25/18 at 2:31 pm to
quote:

What’s the point in leaving it on? Extreme laziness is all I can think of.

Have you ever spent one day in SELA in the summer?
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
31102 posts
Posted on 8/25/18 at 3:42 pm to
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So, if you’re fast enough you could actually extinguish cigarette in a 5 gal bucket of gasoline. Just have to get the cig through the less concentrated vapor and you’re home free.


I think it's easier than that. A glowing cigarette is not a flame or spark.

The following is from Intuitor Insultingly Stupid Movie Physics

quote:

We poured a very small amount of gasoline in an aluminum pie pan or slightly deeper cake pan and placed it in the middle of a concrete slab. The pie and cake pans were chosen because they allowed the gasoline to spread out into a very shallow puddle the way it would if spilled on the ground. It also pretty much guaranteed that the vapors at some point above the pan would mix enough with air to form an ignitable mixture.



Then the cigarette tests began

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We lit a cigarette and tossed it into the pan. The cigarette paper wicked up gasoline and quenched the glowing tip without igniting anything (see Figure 4). We tossed in more lit cigarettes. We tried lighting gasoline soaked paper towels. We used long tongs for reaching far away objects to hold glowing cigarettes over the pan at various heights. More than once we placed several glowing cigarettes in the pan (see Figure 5). Our record was 40 glowing cigarettes at one time. In most cases, we allowed the glowing cigarettes to smolder until they went out.


ANd continued in varying conditions.


quote:

Various experiments were conducted at different times of the day with different air temperatures and humidity. A total of 223 cigarettes of 11 different types were eventually used all without ever igniting the gasoline. Yet, at the end of each experimental session the gasoline was successfully lit using a single match attached to a long pole (see figures 6 and 7). The gasoline would typically ignite just before the match touched it. This indicated that there was an ignitable mixture above the surface of the gasoline. Numerous lit cigarettes were in this region for significant periods of time.


And in an attempt to simulate someone puffing on a cigarette.

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To test it, we built a simple smoking apparatus which could draw air through the cigarette or push it backwards out the tip.

We tested the apparatus repeatedly in both modes without getting ignition. During a test a cigarette was consumed rapidly and glowed brightly. Often sparks shot or fell off the cigarette. They were smoked at various levels above the gasoline to insure that at least part of the time they were in a region with an ignitable mixture. Surprisingly, even when a cigarette was puffed it didn't ignite the gasoline.


Posted by JawjaTigah
Bizarro World
Member since Sep 2003
22509 posts
Posted on 8/25/18 at 3:45 pm to
If it were even the slightest risk, I would think anyone with an ounce of sense would turn their vehicle off when pumping gas. Oh, wait... there is more than a slight risk? There are combustible fumes all over the place when gas is pumping? And most cars have combustion engines? And some passengers in the pump lane across from you might smoke, and that means open fire near your car and the gas fumes? And you say your car has windows that can open but instead of opening them, you leave your car running because it is hot? How hot is a gas explosion?
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98482 posts
Posted on 8/25/18 at 3:46 pm to
My F250 diesel runs all the time, baw.
Posted by starsandstripes
Georgia
Member since Nov 2017
11897 posts
Posted on 8/25/18 at 3:51 pm to
quote:

Would you rather your baby sweat or possibly get blown up?



You drive your car around with a tank filled with gasoline, but you think that putting gasoline in the tank is now a danger? News flash - it's not.

Here's another news flash - you can talk on your cell phone while pumping gas as well.

Contrary to the belief of idiots and Q fanatics, gasoline doesn't just explode with the slightest provocation.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98482 posts
Posted on 8/25/18 at 3:54 pm to
Back in the day, meaning WWII and before, the military field expedient for removing packing grease from new weapons and equipment was to use boiling gasoline.
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