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re: Benelli M2 or Beretta A400
Posted on 8/15/18 at 4:12 pm to KemoSabe65
Posted on 8/15/18 at 4:12 pm to KemoSabe65
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3" is good enough for any bird flying and i believe your patterns will be better shooting 3" out of a 3" chamber than 3" from a 3-1/2"
The only reason I would lean on a 3.5" is if I goose hunted a lot, but for all practical purposes, a 3" gets the job done.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 4:16 pm to KemoSabe65
Didn’t mean to downvote you. I completely agree with you on the 3 1/2”. I have a Browning BPS 10 gauge. If I need it I always have it as a backup.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 4:26 pm to DeltaDoc
SX3 has to be a top 3 gun of mine also. Won one at an banquet years ago, sold it, and then a few months ago i bought another because I missed how it shoots too much.
This post was edited on 8/15/18 at 4:27 pm
Posted on 8/15/18 at 4:30 pm to keyboard_warrior9
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SX3
One of the best values for your dollar ever made in 3-1/2' semi-auto's. That's a lot of shotgun for the price and rarely do they have any issues. Only folks you ever see run them down are brand whores and folks who've never hunted with one
This post was edited on 8/15/18 at 4:30 pm
Posted on 8/15/18 at 4:47 pm to Clames
quote:This. ^^^^
If you plan to do a lot of shooting the A400 is definitely the softer recoiling gun. I've run hundreds of shells through my A400 in a day shooting clays and the gas piston had hardly any fouling on it. Utterly reliable, swings like the barrel is 4" shorter than it is,
I've never shot the M2, so don't put too much weight on my opinion. But I typically shoot 5-6 cases of shells (sporting clays) thru my A400 before I bother to clean it.
I have two of them - one for the kids to shoot. If both were to disappear tomorrow, I'd go buy two more. I wouldn't even stop and consider anything else.
I don't have the opportunity to do much duck hunting, but have carried the 400 twice on duck hunts. It kills ducks just fine.
Before the A400's came out, I shot Beretta 391's. Excellent shotguns, but the 400 weighs less. The 400's and the 391's have shims that let you adjust the cast (left & right) and "drop" (not sure that's the right term). Picking one up in a gun store may not tell you if it fits well -- especially if you're left handed (they are delivered with a right hand shim installed).
Anyway .... the 400's are expensive, but they hold their value well. I think they're worth it compared to the cost of other shotguns.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 6:53 pm to lv2bowhntAU
Exactly right. I have no dog in the hunt and own all of the major brands. I like the SX3 better than them all.
Those guns have a following in Arkansas. Lots of guys running those guns day in and out guiding in Arkansas.
Those guns have a following in Arkansas. Lots of guys running those guns day in and out guiding in Arkansas.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 7:18 pm to KemoSabe65
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believe your patterns will be better shooting 3" out of a 3" chamber than 3" from a 3-1/2".
I haven’t patterned my Super Vinci but the only reason I got it was it feels so much better in the hand than the Vinci. I have never shot 3-12” shells out of it.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 8:11 pm to GoldenSombrero
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mainly when I shouldered an A400 it didn't sit as well for me as the Benelli.
I’ve been trying to decide between the two for a couple of months. I’ve finally decided on the SBEIII for this reason.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 8:19 pm to weagle99
Weagle99:
Almost bought a supervinci when they came out. It felt so natural when I shouldered it. How you like yours? And why do u think a lot of people hate on it?
Almost bought a supervinci when they came out. It felt so natural when I shouldered it. How you like yours? And why do u think a lot of people hate on it?
Posted on 8/15/18 at 8:41 pm to Duckhammer_77
I like it and shoot it very well. I think people shy away because of the appearance and front mounted safety. It handles so nice for me though.
Posted on 8/16/18 at 7:35 am to weagle99
Feel like I'm fully qualified to address the OP's request:
Have always been beretta fan boy, bought my first 390 in '96 and still shoot it for clays and doves. Have owned the Xtrema2 then eventually sold for the A400 Xtreme. Realized I'm just not shooting 3.5" shells much any more and went ahead and dipped my toe in the inertia realm, bought an M2 three seasons ago, but kept the A400 on standby in event the new gig went south.
Poor A400 never left the closet and finally brought myself to sell it to someone who will use it last fall.
I make usually 30 regular season hunts a season and 8 teal season hunts. To me the M2 is more like a tool than a fancy gun, even though it's by no means cost friendly. It just works and love the simpler action, crisper feel on firing and less parts to maintain/lubricate.
It's an absolute waterfowler's workhorse, so long as you're not full-on ruhtard and think you've got to be shooting 3.5's. Good luck this season, you can't go wrong either way, the above is just my experience with them.
Have always been beretta fan boy, bought my first 390 in '96 and still shoot it for clays and doves. Have owned the Xtrema2 then eventually sold for the A400 Xtreme. Realized I'm just not shooting 3.5" shells much any more and went ahead and dipped my toe in the inertia realm, bought an M2 three seasons ago, but kept the A400 on standby in event the new gig went south.
Poor A400 never left the closet and finally brought myself to sell it to someone who will use it last fall.
I make usually 30 regular season hunts a season and 8 teal season hunts. To me the M2 is more like a tool than a fancy gun, even though it's by no means cost friendly. It just works and love the simpler action, crisper feel on firing and less parts to maintain/lubricate.
It's an absolute waterfowler's workhorse, so long as you're not full-on ruhtard and think you've got to be shooting 3.5's. Good luck this season, you can't go wrong either way, the above is just my experience with them.
Posted on 8/16/18 at 8:23 am to Dman69
Get the one that fits. Length of pull and comb drop are your two most important factors. To measure your LOP, bend your arm 90 degrees and measure the distance from the crease in your elbow and the first crease on your trigger finger (1st crease from the tip of your finger). Most average build people are around 14.5". You don't need to fool with measuring comb drop in this instance, but an easy way to test is to close your eyes, mount the gun, then open them. If your beads line up like a snowman, that's good. If they are stacked or there's even more distance, you need to adjust the comb up or down.
Satisfying those two factors will eliminate tons of frustration from missing. A shotgun that fits you will not hurt you or bruise you... ever.
Satisfying those two factors will eliminate tons of frustration from missing. A shotgun that fits you will not hurt you or bruise you... ever.
Posted on 8/16/18 at 9:09 am to Tigah D
Thanks for the input. Just talked to a friend of mine that owns a sporting clays range and has an outdoor show so he pretty much shoots guns for a living. He has several new Beretta 390 silver mallard editions and swears it’s the best gun Beretta has ever made. Can get one never fired for $800. Only problem is it’s wood with satin finish and I am pretty rough on guns. Guess I’m going to shoot them all and see what feels the best.
Posted on 8/16/18 at 9:15 am to Dman69
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Thanks for the input. Just talked to a friend of mine that owns a sporting clays range and has an outdoor show so he pretty much shoots guns for a living. He has several new Beretta 390 silver mallard editions and swears it’s the best gun Beretta has ever made. Can get one never fired for $800. Only problem is it’s wood with satin finish and I am pretty rough on guns. Guess I’m going to shoot them all and see what feels the best.
That's an outstanding gun for sure but might not be best fit for duck hunting, as I found out myself with my own 390. Wood stock, blued barrel. Functions flawless, but gets beat up in the marsh whether it's simply morning dew or a dog shaking off with salt marsh water. That's what led to buying the Xtrema2 and retiring the 390 from the blind
Posted on 11/3/23 at 9:58 pm to Dman69
These are both fantastic shotguns. I’m a lefty. I have an A-400 XPLOR that’s gorgeous and shoots incredibly well. That said, I wouldn’t take a Ferrari off-road. The M2 is a workhorse. Both cycle every time but that M2 does it filthy. Pick whichever you shoot best. You can’t make a wrong choice here.
Posted on 11/4/23 at 8:11 am to DevildocOneOne
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Pick whichever you shoot best. You can’t make a wrong choice here.
I think he did. This is a 5 yr old thread?
Posted on 11/4/23 at 8:57 am to bbvdd
The benelli is entirely more ergonomic. The beretta is better for heavy recoiling loads. For ducks, beretta all day erry day. For clays and doves, m2.
Posted on 11/4/23 at 8:33 pm to Ace Midnight
Both are great guns. It’s whatever you feel more comfortable with. I just got the SBEIII in a .20 ga but have shot the Beretta A400. It’s just as good to me
Posted on 11/4/23 at 8:36 pm to Tigah D
All of my group that duck hunts quit shooting 3.5” loads. These new loads are so good there’s no need for it. It was beating me to death and knocking me off the birds trying to follow up with the 2nd shot
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