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Let's say healthcare is a right
Posted on 8/15/18 at 2:56 am
Posted on 8/15/18 at 2:56 am
then wouldn't that mean we have a right to force others to provide us a service?
Wouldn't that be considered slavery?
Wouldn't that be considered slavery?
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Posted on 8/15/18 at 3:14 am to hawgfaninc
I imagine it wouldd be interpreted roughly parallel to Due Process, which gets really complicated. So, once the Congress and the Courts got done carving out the roadmap of complexities, it would be a complete mess and far worse than the convoluted mess it currently is.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 3:30 am to hawgfaninc
socialism is a form of slavery
Posted on 8/15/18 at 3:41 am to hawgfaninc
Please let me wake up from this bad dream
Posted on 8/15/18 at 4:47 am to hawgfaninc
How does that differ from the right to an attorney?
Posted on 8/15/18 at 4:48 am to hawgfaninc
Access to health care is a human right, a moral obligation. If you want to step over the sick and dying in the street, move to India.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 5:44 am to hawgfaninc
I could go for a version of that. A right for participating members of society that can be lost by bad behavior. Such as drug usage and violent crime. We have a sort of universal health care now. Medicare for the old with deductible. And mandatory care for anyone at hospital emergency facilities along with other safety nets.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 5:44 am to hawgfaninc
Your 30% premium increase is just around the corner. Thanks Donald.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 5:48 am to hawgfaninc
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Let's say healthcare is a right
No......bc it ain't
Posted on 8/15/18 at 7:03 am to hawgfaninc
Rights, by their nature, cannot be finite. There isn't only so much free speech to go around.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 7:08 am to hawgfaninc
Healthcare is not a right.
ACCESS to healthcare is a right and everyone in the USA currently has this right
ACCESS to healthcare is a right and everyone in the USA currently has this right
Posted on 8/15/18 at 7:22 am to hawgfaninc
The "right" insofar as such a thing is discernible in this case MUST be access to healthcare - not healthcare itself.
Why? Because, as you say, it would become slavery at that point.
If I want to live 500 miles from anywhere - in the wilds of Alaska for example, I cannot then contemplate demanding doctors come to my residence - I will have to go to them, using my rugged individualism.
"Access" is just that - any bars should be removed from my being able to negotiate medical services in a capitalistic system. Emergency services are a public safety issue, so I get that. Beyond that, we can't make health care a "utility" particularly not a free one and maintain the quality. And Americans, as a whole, want that quality maintained.
Why? Because, as you say, it would become slavery at that point.
If I want to live 500 miles from anywhere - in the wilds of Alaska for example, I cannot then contemplate demanding doctors come to my residence - I will have to go to them, using my rugged individualism.
"Access" is just that - any bars should be removed from my being able to negotiate medical services in a capitalistic system. Emergency services are a public safety issue, so I get that. Beyond that, we can't make health care a "utility" particularly not a free one and maintain the quality. And Americans, as a whole, want that quality maintained.
This post was edited on 8/15/18 at 7:23 am
Posted on 8/15/18 at 7:51 am to hawgfaninc
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Wouldn't that be considered slavery?
Posted on 8/15/18 at 8:13 am to hawgfaninc
quote:
then wouldn't that mean we have a right to force others to provide us a service?
I would say its no more slavery than someone's right to counsel in a defense case.
Is that slavery?
If you didnt guess already I am playing devils advocate here.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 8:24 am to hawgfaninc
Let's bring back charity hospitals.
There's no need to abandon the free market just because it doesn't work for a minority of people. Keep the free market at work and separately accommodate those who it doesn't work for.
That's not how leftists think, though. In essentially everything they do, they want the majority to bend the knee to the minority.
There's no need to abandon the free market just because it doesn't work for a minority of people. Keep the free market at work and separately accommodate those who it doesn't work for.
That's not how leftists think, though. In essentially everything they do, they want the majority to bend the knee to the minority.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 8:25 am to hawgfaninc
Healthcare is given to all.
Health insurance is what you mean, right?
Health insurance is what you mean, right?
Posted on 8/15/18 at 8:34 am to hawgfaninc
carrying it further out still:
force select individuals to study medicine
force med schools to accept chosen students
force professors to teach med students
force employers(government) to pay new wave of docs
a lot of forced initiatives and the product will be far inferior
force select individuals to study medicine
force med schools to accept chosen students
force professors to teach med students
force employers(government) to pay new wave of docs
a lot of forced initiatives and the product will be far inferior
Posted on 8/15/18 at 8:35 am to hawgfaninc
Socialism/communism is state run slavery.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 9:29 am to hawgfaninc
Did you just call all of the VA doctors slaves?
Posted on 8/15/18 at 9:30 am to hawgfaninc
Even if healthcare were a right, that doesn't make healthcare insurance a right
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